BARIUM – BIGGER FOLLOW-UP
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Name, Symbol, Number: barium, Ba, 56
Chemical series: alkaline earth metals
Group, Period, Block: 2, 6, s
Appearance: silvery white
Standard atomic weight 137.327(7) ug·mol-1
Electron configuration [Xe] 6s2
Electrons per shell 2, 8, 18, 18, 8, 2
Density 3.51 g/cm3
Liquid density at m.p.: 3.338 g/cm3
Melting point: 1000K (727°C, 1341°F)
Boiling point: 2170K (1897°C, 3447°F)
Heat of fusion: 7.12 kJ/mol-1
Heat of vaporization: 140.3 kJ/mol
Heat capacity: (25°C) 28.07 J/mol/K
Oxidation states: 2 (strongly basic oxide)
Magnetic ordering: paramagnetic
Electrical resistivity: (20°C) 332 nO/m
Thermal conductivity: (300K) 18.4 W/m/K
Thermal expansion (25°C) 20.6 µm/m/K
Mohs hardness: 1.25
CAS registry number: 7440-39-3
Barium is a chemical element, it has the symbol Ba, and atomic number 56. Barium is a soft silvery metallic alkaline earth metal and is never found in nature in its pure form due to its reactivity with air. Its oxide is historically known as baryta but it reacts with water and carbon dioxide and is not found as a mineral. The most common naturally occurring minerals are the very insoluble barium sulfate, BaSO4 (barite), and barium carbonate, BaCO3 (witherite). Benitoite is a rare gem containing barium.
It is a metallic element that is chemically similar to calcium but more reactive. This metal oxidizes very easily when exposed to air and is highly reactive with water or alcohol, producing hydrogen gas. Burning in air or oxygen produces not just barium oxide (BaO) but also the peroxide. Simple compounds of this heavy element are notable for their high specific gravity. This is true of the most common barium-bearing mineral, its sulfate barite BaSO4, also called ‘heavy spar’ due to the high density (4.5 g/cm³).
It has some medical and many industrial uses:
* Barium compounds, and especially barite (BaSO4), are extremely important to the petroleum industry. Barite is used in drilling mud, a weighting agent in drilling new oil wells.
* Barium sulfate is used as a radiocontrast agent for X-ray imaging of the digestive system (“barium meals” and “barium enemas”).
* Barium carbonate is a useful rat poison and can also be used in making bricks. Unlike the sulfate, the carbonate dissolves in stomach acid, allowing it to be poisonous.
* An alloy with nickel is used in spark plug wire.
* Barium oxide is used in a coating for the electrodes of fluorescent lamps, which facilitates the release of electrons.
* The metal is a “getter” in vacuum tubes, to remove the last traces of oxygen.
* Barium carbonate is used in glassmaking. Being a heavy element, barium increases the refractive index and luster of the glass.
* Barite is used extensively in rubber production.
* Barium nitrate and chlorate give green colors in fireworks.
* Impure barium sulfide phosphoresces after exposure to the light.
* Lithopone, a pigment that contains barium sulfate and zinc sulfide, is a permanent white that has good covering power, and does not darken in when exposed to sulfides.
* Barium peroxide can be used as a catalyst to start an aluminothermic reaction when welding rail tracks together. It can also be used in green tracer ammunition.
* Barium titanate was proposed in 2007 to be used in next generation battery technology for electric cars.
* Barium Fluoride is used in infrared applications.
* Barium is a key element in YBCO superconductors.
Barium (Greek barys, meaning “heavy”) was first identified in 1774 by Carl Scheele and extracted in 1808 by Sir Humphry Davy in England. The oxide was at first called barote, by Guyton de Morveau, which was changed by Antoine Lavoisier to baryta, from which “barium” was derived to describe the metal.
Because barium quickly becomes oxidized in air, it is difficult to obtain this metal in its pure form. It is primarily found in and extracted from the mineral barite which is crystallized barium sulfate. Barium is commercially produced through the electrolysis of molten barium chloride (BaCl2)
The most important compounds are barium peroxide, barium chloride, sulfate, carbonate, nitrate, and chlorate.
Naturally occurring barium is a mix of seven stable isotopes. There are twenty-two isotopes known, but most of these are highly radioactive and have half-lives in the several millisecond to several minute range. The only notable exceptions are 133Ba which has a half-life of 10.51 years, and 137Ba (2.55 minutes).
All water or acid soluble barium compounds are extremely poisonous. At low doses, barium acts as a muscle stimulant, while higher doses affect the nervous system, causing cardiac irregularities, tremors, weakness, anxiety, dyspnea and paralysis. This may be due to its ability to block potassium ion channels which are critical to the proper function of the nervous system.
Barium sulfate can be taken orally because it is highly insoluble in water, and is eliminated completely from the digestive tract. Unlike other heavy metals, barium does not bioaccumulate. However, inhaled dust containing barium compounds can accumulate in the lungs, causing a benign condition called baritosis.
Oxidation occurs very easily and, to remain pure, barium should be kept under a petroleum-based fluid (such as kerosene) or other suitable oxygen-free liquids that exclude air.
Barium acetate could lead to death in high doses. Marie Robards poisoned her father with the substance in Texas in 1993. She was tried and convicted in 1996.
BIGGER FOLLOW-UP (TO “SODA POP” LEADER)
ADDRESSED TO YOUTUBE “CHEMTRAIL” VIDEO SITES
Jet engines MAKE soda pop. Decane is the chemical name for aviation kerosine, or JP-8*. The combustion formula goes:
2*C10H22 + 31*O2 -> 20*CO2 + 11*H2O, or
DECANE + OXYGEN -> CARBON DIOXIDE + WATER
And as MOST OF US know:
CARBON DIOXIDE + WATER = FIZZYPOP
*JP-8 is modern aviation kerosine. It is safer, with a higher flashpoint that the JP-4 it has superseded. It has anti-corrosion and anti-gelling additives, but does NOT contain Ethylene Dibromide (which was once used to dissolve the lead oxide produced by tetra-ethyl lead anti-knock gasoline).
There could be THREE OR MORE transparent layers of air of DIFFERENT HUMIDITIES, only ONE of which condenses (at -40 deg) an ICE CRYSTAL TRAIL, within the short-haul civil aircraft band between 30 and 35 thousand feet. Layer thicknesses of differing humidity are frequently only hundreds of feet thick, and aircraft are spaced ten miles apart on the same level for a particular route, and conflicting routes are typically 2000ft above or below each other.
So you’ll see SOME planes laying ice crystal trails while others don’t – it depends which transparent stratospheric layer the plane is flying through. These layers themselves aren’t perfectly flat – they roughly conform to the ground profile AND any rising CUMULUS clouds. So even if the plane flies straight and level, it may be the layer it is in slopes gently down or up, and an ice crystal trail either appears or disappears. You have to remember these layers, though different, are ALWAYS themselves transparent.
So you can’t SEE them. You can only see which layer is really humid by a plane throwing a “vapor trail” in it. Typically stratospheric layers begin ABOVE the TROPOPAUSE, which is where our ground level weather STOPS. The layers vary in thickness, more densely packed close to the TROPOPAUSE, thinning out to nothing much above twelve miles up. It’s very smooth and calm up there (although it may have a high speed with respect to the ground).
Unlike what it is DOWN HERE. This rising panic ensues from an under-educated public. Had you all been properly taught about the weather as schoolchildren, this would be a NON-TOPIC.
Respiratory ailments may well be on the increase, but so is the planting of unusual crops which emit unusual pollens, auto fumes are still on the increase, and urban photochemical smogs are also on the increase. It is known (by some) that the COMBINATION of pollens, auto fumes, and urban smog can cause severe auto-immune failure, asthma, and death in the young, weak, or elderly.
If there are MORE “vapor trails” in the sky than there used to be, then the answer is that there is MORE AVIATION TRAFFIC and MORE WATER IN THE ATMOSPHERE. It isn’t very wise to look upwards and blame “soda pop” for combinatory effects which are happening down here, solely because you can’t understand how the atmosphere works. It certainly doesn’t help you to find a REAL solution to the REAL problem.
Video posts like this are WRONG, and risk scenarios as HARMFUL as a TSUNAMI.
Would YOU call a tsunami EVIL? No you wouldn’t, because a tsunami lacks INTENT.
Would I call this video post EVIL?
Written by JazzRoc
November 15, 2008 at 1:00 am
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“those sky-grids” – you’re about to get the works on that from ME.
“scientific evidence proves that a great increase of planes cannot affect the upper stratosphere” – NO, IT DOESN’T AT ALL. Few aircraft fly in the UPPER stratosphere. They fly in the lower stratosphere, just above the tropopause. The stratosphere is easily affected by combustion exhaust water, because it is stable, and has only sublimation into water vapor, and the force of gravity upon the ice crystals, causing them to fall, as mechanisms for removal. Contrails spread in saturated or supersaturated conditions to cover the whole sky. What scientific evidence is this?
“you’re implying that air-layers combine suitably within an hour” – stratospheric layers don’t combine at all, but they may be filled with ice crystals as the planes’ wave vortices stir the layer contents.
“50’s, 60’s and 70’s disseminated all over Britain (millions of ppl affected)” – YOU’RE MISTAKEN AGAIN. Didn’t you know that WATER, KILLED BACTERIA, and a PHOSPHORESCENT DYE are HARMLESS? Please refer to me the records indicating that millions of people were affected. And, anyway, wasn’t this to do with finding out how to combat Russian germ warfare attack? Before you make free with the FALSEHOODS you should look up contrailscience.com and find out how your blathering stands up to reality. And for a further perspective on Man versus Nature you could look up my blog on:
I’ve debated the contrail vs. chemtrail theories with jazzroc for the past couple of months. I did present a well researched and thought out scientific argument to him. His response was to delete my comments from his weblog, and to block any comments I post.
a) you didn’t debate anything: you posted using an anonymous email address – once. That isn’t a debate. If you look in that inbox you’ll find letters from me still awaiting your response.
b) your research was poor and your science non-existent. There was nothing in your post which advanced anything. Except sophistry.
Contrails are known and measured as part of atmospheric science. It is “chemtrails” that is a theory.
What about the Bergeron-Findeisen theory? Can persistent contrails exist if the Bergeron-Findeisen theory were true?
If there ARE differing vapour pressure requirements for deposition of water onto either super-cooled droplets or ice crystals, then the Bergeron-Findeisen Theory is true, and the droplets will evaporate in favour of deposition onto the ice crystals. The evaporation will then raise the humidity, making it even more likely that the next aircraft will leave a permanent trail. Super-cooled droplets are produced aerodynamically over the wings in marginally-warmer conditions: the exhausts produce ice crystals at -40 or colder, which is the general rule over 30,000 feet.
But that makes no difference to the final outcome, which is that persistent contrails are clouds of ice crystals which cannot evaporate into the fully-saturated atmosphere which surrounds them.
Nor to the conclusions one can draw, which are:
a) that persistent trails are natural, and not the confirmation of “chemtrails”, and
b) all other “proofs” having been shown to be fraudulent, the case for “chemtrails” is non-existent.
Were you to study any physics at all, your “theory” would vanish, your “debate” disappear.
“tell not contrails” – NO YOU CANNOT. See below.
“My entire life this never happened” – It was happening BEFORE YOU WERE BORN.
“I watch planes/real contrails, and they disappear, but these chemtrails DO Not” – Your assumption is INCORRECT. Contrails CAN and DO persist in HUMID stratospheric conditions.
“only spray where the population lives” – Above every town is a RISING PLUME of HEAT and HUMIDITY. Contrails MAY persist in these plumes. Also you may care to check out satellite pictures from space, which show quite clearly that the trails form within humid atmospheric conditions.
“How stupid do they think people are?” – How stupid do you wish to remain?
“back and forth over the towns” – These are SEPARATE planes, each either COMING or GOING. No videos have ever shown a “spraying” plane circling to respray a town, because these aircraft are civil flights from one major airport to another.
“Why?” – Your answer’s above…
“targeting these areas/get the full benefit of the poisons” – JUST BULLSHIT AND BLUSTER (LIES). Just dial up a satellite view and you will see contrails wherever the atmosphere is moist. That is, randomly over land AND ocean, wherever the conditions are HUMID.
It is YOU that has been handed a line – which you cannot handle.
Don’t send me any more “information”. I am a very fast reader and have read and seen everything you’ve seen.
You have a problem with reasoning. Any reasonable educated person would listen to Carnicom for about FIVE minutes, and then switch him off. The reason he would do that is that he breaks all the rules of journalism and science. Instead of supplying EVIDENCE and PROOF he makes further assertions, breaking the “legal” chain of evidence. If you cannot see that I am sorry for you, but I’m no longer prepared to help you.
What makes you think that airborne materials MUST have come from an airplane, for instance? Do you KNOW how far vapour trail materials DRIFT? I don’t even need a calculator to tell you – from an altitude of seven miles it’s going to be AT LEAST TWO HUNDRED MILES DOWNWIND.
What makes you think that as you read this, you are NOT ingesting pathogens and metals? I can tell you that, for sure, you ARE, AND HAVE ALWAYS BEEN INGESTING THEM. YOU ALWAYS WILL.
Your body is a DYNAMIC device, evolved over 4 billion years to COPE with such stresses. It WILL eliminate those metals AND KILL those pathogens.
It’s just a question of degree…
You lack the scientific understanding to prevent you from freely believing the UNBELIEVABLE.
DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
“Namely, they persist for hours (eventually turning into a haze that doesn’t go away”
They’re in the stratosphere. That is, above five miles UP, about a fifth of atmospheric pressure, as warm as -40 deg C, maybe as cold as -80 deg, which is colder than the surface of Mars.
Passing planes laying 100lb of ICE per mile will SOON saturate the stratospheric layer they are in. Once that happens, the ice of the trail CANNOT SUBLIME ANY MORE INTO WATER VAPOUR. It MUST remain. It WILL persist for hours. The only reason it doesn’t persist for EVER, is that it is HEAVY, and FALLING.
“water doesn’t act that way” -You are WRONG. Water in the stratosphere is ICE. Not ice like in your fridge, more like finely powdered GLASS. I’ve lived in Germany, and deep in the continental land mass the temperature can fall very low in winter. I have experienced -40 deg C, and let me tell you ICE ISN’T EVEN SLIPPERY AT -40 DEG C. It is HARD and it is DRY. Say you were in a balloon at 32,000 feet and an Airbus came just by you at 575mph.
You’d be amazed at its speed, and also its colossal WAVE VORTEX, as it whirled the two trails around itself in two columns fifty yards across. The trail would sting your face like wind-whipped sand on a beach. Of course, your face would fall off with the intense cold as well…
“they are sprayed from unmarked aircraft” – WRONG AGAIN. They are marked, but the markings become invisible from the ground due to a phenomenon called “blue light scattering”. Had the plane been painted BLACK, from the ground you would see NO PLANE AT ALL
“they stop and start in a manner not consistent with normal contrail formation” – WRONG AGAIN. They start and stop PERFECTLY consistent with normal contrail formation. The trails are created in saturated or supersaturated air. The “inconsistency” is firmly in your understanding of the nature of the stratosphere.
Your mistake lies in assuming that these AIRS are DISTINGUISHABLE: they are NOT. All types of air are TRANSPARENT, get it? INVISIBLE! Hence a plane flying through dry air leaves no trail. It hits a humid area: it leaves a trail. Stop, start, stop, start. This can happen for miles: stratospheric layers frequently form ripples as a consequence of atmospheric compressibility following on downwind from upward ground projections such as ridges and mountains…
“photographed as not even coming from the engines” – That’s right. Either a) You don’t understand that the time taken for the exhaust to cool down from +1100 degrees to -40 degrees manifests itself as a GAP, or b) the plane has hit SUPERSATURATED air, when the WHOLE AIRFRAME sets a trail and the tightest vortices (wingtips, control surface ends) will cause the MOST ICE to get dumped.
“I don’t remember them as a child or teen” – I DO. I was always keen on aircraft, making them from the age of 7. Why would you? You wouldn’t be LOOKING for them. In our lifetime we’ve seen a TREMENDOUS increase in low-cost air travel, and a VERY RECENT increase in cheap videocams, and reduction in educational standards…
“the media will not talk about the issue” – They only talk about things that increase their sales. They also have good scientific advice which deters them from printing unconsidered rubbish. Living on the Spanish Canary Islands, I don’t read the media much…
“and some other reasons” – You better tell me what they are, for so far you have NOTHING…
It says IN THE ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA:
Contrail, streamer of cloud sometimes observed behind an airplane flying in clear, cold, humid air. It forms upon condensation of the water vapour produced by the combustion of fuel in the airplane engines. When the ambient relative humidity is high, the resulting ice-crystal plume may last for several hours. The trail may be distorted by the winds, and sometimes it spreads outwards to form a layer of cirrus cloud.
from “Uncinus” of “Contrailscience”
Contrails are clouds made from water vapor that condenses then freezes behind a plane engine. Since the engines are on constantly, it seems a bit odd when you see contrails with gaps in them, or even contrails that stop and start. If the engine is pumping out a constant amount of water, then why is the trail not constant? This puzzle is sometimes seized on by people who think that persistent contrails are actually “chemtrails”, or some kind of deliberate spraying operation.
But it’s actually very simple. The amount of water in the exhaust is pretty constant, but the amount of moisture in the air is not. The humidity varies with altitude in the stratosphere, and a layer of low humidity can be sandwiched between two layers of high humidity. As a plane climbs or descends through this layer, then the trail will only form in the areas of high humidity, and so look like it was “switched off” in the area of low humidity.
You can get the same effect with temperature. A warm layer of air can actually lay on top of a colder layer in what is called an “inversion” (you’ll hear this on the weather sometimes, referred to as an “inversion layer”). When a plane flies through this inversion layer, the trail can be “broken”.
It’s not just climbing or descending flights either. The boundaries between these layers is not flat, and gravity waves or rising convection currents of air can create large volumes of air that differ in temperature and/or humidity from the neighboring air, and so can break (or make) the contrail when the plane flies through them.
Don’t take my word for it though. Do a Google search for “broken contrail” and you’ll find lots of examples, and similar explanations.
NOAA – “Occasionally a jet plane, especially if ascending or descending, will pass through a much drier or more moist layer of atmosphere which may result in a broken pattern to the contrail, with it appearing in segments rather than in one continuous plume.”
AirSpace Magazine – “If the contrail stops, then starts up again, creating a broken line, chances are the airplane flew through a dry patch.”
Doc Weather – “What is happening here is that warm air rising from the ground carries vast amounts of water vapor upwards into the highest levels of the atmosphere. This water vapor exists as massive, plumes of warm, moist air ascending to very high levels. When a rising plume reaches the upper atmosphere it condenses into high ice clouds known as cirrus or feather clouds. In the case of the jet contrail (condensation trail) in the first image, the condensing cloud formed where the aircraft passed through a rising plume of moist warm air. The air on either side of the plume was not sufficiently moist to support the formation of an enduring cloud. As a result the contrail only remained visible in the warm plume.”
Now study the pictures above. The one on the left was entitled “broken contrail”, the one on the right “broken chemtrail”. If you know anything about analyzing computer jpg files, you will discover the one on the right to be FAKED (even though a telephone wire appears to pass through the “gap” in the “trail”.
Interesting, isn’t it? The “broken contrail” is honest, the “broken chemtrail” fake…
Sniker, you don’t know the WHY so don’t tell me the HOW.
It’s a case of RELATIVE humidity and DEW POINT. HOT WATER VAPOUR, which is what “steam” is, can only MAKE UP the air’s humidity to its 100% RH level as it cools down. Beyond that it MUST form droplets of water or crystals of ice, depending on the air temperature.
In either case (troposphere or stratosphere) if the air doesn’t get to its 100% RH the water will evaporate or sublime into water vapour over a short period. Stratospheric air is MORE LIKELY to be saturated or supersaturated BECAUSE it is LAMINAR, whereas the troposphere is TURBULENT, being the BOUNDARY LAYER. Hence you sometimes get PERSISTENT TRAILS in the stratosphere.
Jets DO leave WATER contrails down below in humid 95%+ conditions where they occur (tropics mostly) but they are more difficult to see, and CT guys aren’t videoing there. There is a YT CT vid which clearly shows the APU (auxiliary power unit – all passenger planes have them) laying a faint trail (in Canada!), before it makes its stupid claim.
Clifford Carnicom forswore Science with his website. From his “USAF lies to America”, to his analysis (from the ground!) of a “chemtrail”, his site is a FARRAGO OF DECEIT. If you had ever made a study of LOGIC or ANALYSIS, you’d KNOW.
“just swipe your finger on random sufaces and hold up to sun and see the metal particals!” – You live in an INDUSTRIALIZED SOCIETY. You should expect CRAP in your air. Learn to spell.
Sorry to disappoint. Here goes:
“antagonistic to empire/super-state comprising pentagon/blah/nasa, why do you think population culling is off the table” – because while it may be possible to blow away a president, and even easy to blow away a nonentity, it becomes very much harder to blow away the vast majority. Wars are a mess, and the only quick and final war would be a nuclear spasm. Poisons and diseases are slow, and have poor coverage. Logistically they are impossible. Practically they don’t work because people can move! Angry people (the ones you’ve missed!) become ferocious opponents. Ask the Germans about the Poles. Talk to Americans about the Vietnamese. To Israeli Jews about Palestinians. The Kurds about Iraqis.
“why not read history as if you were not immune to it” – I have done. It’s the only way to develop an immunity.
“you are a pawn” – I may have been a pawn, but no longer. If necessary I shall simply sail away. If anyone interferes with me I shall interfere with them.
“the industrial age drawing to a close” – Give me strength! There is more industry now than there has ever been. Knowledge hasn’t drawn to a close. Ability hasn’t drawn to a close. Necessity is the mother of invention. Take a look at the Afghans. The Pacific Ring… …China…
“new game in the offing” – Yeah, yeah. Robots blah blah. There’s a great lawnmower and a great vacuum cleaner. Get out the Gray Goo, let’s off the peeps. You haven’t a clue.
“much fewer pawns” – stop reading science fiction and take a look outside. Out, not up! Sorry about the missing caps.
Written by JazzRoc
November 14, 2008 at 1:00 am
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91177info – A PAGE FROM YOUTUBE – ALTN – ALUMINUM/BARIUM – ANDERS – DISCOVERY?
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The chemtrail petition has the necessary signatures to get a response from the government. 600 so far but if anyone would like a personal email detailing what our government is doing or is aware of please see the top link.
the report states that the BEST DISPERSAL HEIGHT IS 80,000 FEET. Only U2s and X15s fly up there, and all they can carry is cameras and electronics. That altitude is TWICE AS HIGH as the CEILINGS of modern aircraft and is IMPOSSIBLE TO REACH WITH ANY TYPE OF TANKER. That’s why they conclude that SEEDING OCEAN CLOUDS and FEEDING IRON TO OCEAN CENTRES are the only routes immediately viable. They haven’t done those either, unfortunately. It makes RUBBISH out of your video post, doesn’t it?
Yes they do seed clouds. There are private companies that do as such and videos of companies cloud seeding on youtube. I am very happy with my video as it has added to the pool of information which thousands of researches are finding out and adding to themselves. Some information may be speculative, some may be far fetched but I believe I was the first to find these documents of the UK government actually suggesting adding chemicals to aviation fuel and making it available on youtube.
You are proposing something, on the other hand, which you REALLY know nothing about. It therefore seems “reasonable” to you to behave the way you do. Any scientist or engineer who reads what you write will shake their head. Where were you when brains were handed out? You can’t even find the relevant research materials, which are freely available on the net. You also appear unable to read. If DEFRA claims it would be difficult to do, then they haven’t done it. You don’t appear to notice that.
Yes I know I haven’t been able to give as much attention to the subject of chemtrails and find the necessary documents. I was distracted by the swine flu last year and the so called deadly pandemic we were supposed to be in. Which turned out to be a false alarm and a way for our governments to syphon off tax payers money. They lied it was a false alarm. This vid is 10 months old so maybe I should return to investigate chemtrails. After the petition at 10 Downing St which ends in March.
Truly infantile. “Look, a plane is flying overhead and there are some rocks on the ground shaped like the letter C. It’s a clue! Proof for chemtrails!”. You’ll never be taken seriously by anyone with critical faculties who can weigh evidence. You’ll just continue to talk amongst your buddies with the same psychological disposition about your escapist fantasies and waste the time of your other friends, pestering us with the latest “proof” for your delusions. Yes, I actually read the document.
You’re the one who is delusional. In fact, looking through your comments for the last six months – You’re a total fruitcake. You are also a liar and I hate liars. Now which document did you think you read? hmm?
@91177info, Stephen Salter made a submission to this committee – this:
You’ll find it on my channel and also at jazzroc. wordpress. com on my “Jet Spray” page because it’s a brilliant and cheap idea. Yes, I actually read the document. many times, many places. All this stuff is just the consideration of options, many of which are dead ducks. You lack the nous to make any sensible discrimination whatsoever. Scientific understanding, if you ever found it, might help you…
There is no government legalisation and private companies can virtually spray what they want up there as it been reported on MSM. So really you don’t have a clue what is being sprayed. Of course you would say it is just water vapour. You started your comment thread very defensive/protective and rude. You think all is well and no damage is being caused to us or our earth, fine. That’s your instinct. Mine says something is not right and there are millions of other people who feel the same.
@91177info, I actually C&P’d someone else’s comment which exactly suited this. I’m not talking about INSTINCT. I’m talking about EXPERIENCE. I KNOW there is nothing in the trails and I can PROVE there is nothing in the trails. You can neither KNOW or PROVE anything. Aviation fuel is made up to a recipe by the admixture of conditioners to a locally-made petroleum distillate, so it will be subtly different wherever the plane refuels. But there’s only one type of jetfuel and it’s for ALL planes.
beachcomber2008, Obviously you didn’t read the entire 163 pages…I can tell by what you are saying. Pull it up again and READ it this time…..then come back and debate with us.
Isn’t it quite the coincidence that Mars has quite an abundance of sulphate. Perhaps those tubes we have seen on Mars are them harvesting minerals. Great video.
Chemtrails also (amongst other chemicals) contain barium. The EPA states dose factors under 2 parts per billion is safe from harm. Rainwater collected after chemspraying has been found to have up to 6 parts per billion. Jet fuel sometimes referred to as JP-5 or JP-8 is regulated by the Department of Commerce. Good luck getting a hold of them. When no1 gives us an answer or we’re completely ignored on a subject we can only believe its something we’d not take well. Then again I’d ignore any scrambled answer they’d “come up with” at this point. Two good reasons. Vitamin D kills the flu virus. And the spray contains chemicals to help the viral envelope fuse with lung cells for easier infection.
Well done for blocking that muppet. Good info here.
Contrails, Climate Changing Clouds of Combustion spewed by 8mile high Oil burning “Smogliners” whose exhaust products acts as the nucleus for the formation of ice crystals that are Contrails ,that persist spread to form Contrail-Cirrus a days heat trapping ( as clouds tend to do) thermal blanket of exhaust cloud. This is Geo-engineering. Contrails. Climate Changing Clouds of Combustion. FairyChemTales a Big Oil spray story to cloud the Environmental Disaster of Vast Oil Burning.
Chemtrails day & night in UK the sun rarely shows and when it does they are back to cover it. EVIL GOVERNMENTS.
Help heal the planet, google ‘orgonite’. It’s a simple compound anyone can create in their backyard with fairly inexpensive, widely-available materials which balances ambient energy by turning the negative energy into positive energy, with many easily-confirmed effects. Orgonite does this continuously, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, without electricity.
Truely infantile. “Look, a plane is flying overhead and there are some rocks on the ground shaped like the letter C. It’s a clue! Proof for chemtrails!”. You’ll never be taken seriously by anyone with critical faculties who can weigh evidence. You’ll just continue to talk amongst your buddies with the same psychological disposition about your escapist fantasies and waste the time of your other friends, pestering us with the latest “proof” for your delusions. Yes, I actually read the document.
gtb393 ??? Joined April 24 2007 Channel Views 0 No Favourites No Uploads Comments 0 Channel Comments 0 Now I really do not need to ask what drew you to my vid do I?? All your appearance has done is reaffirm to the thousands of subscribers that:
A: There really is something going on.
B: You’re a SHILL.
C: You’re EVIL
D: You are not welcome here
E: You’re now on my BLOCKED list
now we can go to every official government agencies and present the document and ask for explanation…
Great find, mate. thanks for share it with the rest of us here. Jazzroc – where are you now, you old fool and lier?
BocScar is either working for the CDC or Baxter. He has several accounts jazzroc and stars15k, he has been paid to do this. He/She is using an avatar which is used by the CDC and is listed in the pdf documents that Jane Burgermeister sent me. See my website link on my profile for more info. There are other shills which have been paid to do this. But BocScar is classic and very persistent. You just have to read through the comments to see what I mean. Love to those that want it. Jason x
hey the weather up here has been weird so far, the whole month of june has been rain, i think its a new record here in this area lol.
I have a few shills as well youtube is crawling with them trying to confuse chemtrails with contrails LOL There is no argument we’re not stupid I was looking for stuff today and googled reports in the UK AND FOUND ONE AT GLOBAL RESEARCH UK
Try this site all the evidence is here in photos/maps and graphs. asp bnl gov/ Just replace the space with an . I will get back to this but the swindle flu is the main headlines lol
I never heard of jazzroc and stars15 is a 40 yr old woman. You’ll need to work harder to pass the detectives exam.
Now why on earth would you come back to this video and reply to a new comment thread which wasn’t in reply to one of yours? I have been waiting for this test for 2 weeks and actually I have just passed my detective exam because you fell for my trap. BocScar you are a shill, your icon is one used in Baxter International labs which can be seen in Jane Burgermeister’s file charges. Goodbye.
Well, dickhead, since you are from england, you HAVE to love moslems. they have taken over your bloody country. Yes, I like guns, that is one of our freedoms here in the US. And I do like women. That would obviously offend a faggot like you. blow it out your windpipe, abdul.
Actually, what you say you like doing to women tells me it is actually YOU that has faggot tendencies! Another moron that uses the same username throughout the web and his email address. You paranoid racist anal loving moron.
I am very sorry to use the terminology that graverobber35 has used. They are not words I use and I only used them in context to what he was saying to me.
Sorry , I lost my tin foil hat in the flood.
You lost a lot more than that. Your nothing more than a muslim hating gun loving womanising thug. This user said that: “mohammed was a child molester” on hardyk1’s channel. By the way always make sure the barrel of your gun isn’t blocked, not being psychic or anything 😉
Did you even bother to read the conclusion? “It is clear from the assessment of geo-engineering options presented here that there are large uncertainties regarding the effectiveness, impacts, technical feasibility, cost and risks of all the schemes considered. As a consequence of these uncertainties, we feel that it is premature at this stage to draw firm conclusions on the feasibility of implementing the schemes discussed”. They don’t even know if geoengineering is possible!
Bother? I’m well bothered. They are getting private companies to do this. They are? testing it out now! Trying different chemicals and mixtures. With out consulting or warning the public. Why? Because we are expendable and our lives and heath doesn’t matter. It really makes me angry. I mean really fucking angry.
Did you read the report’s conclusion? They say that they don’t know if geoengineering is even possible. If they admit in the report that geoengineering might not even be possible, how can you use the report as proof that “chemtrails are real and I believe are happening now with out public consultation.”
Because they are lying, thieving, murdering bastards. They killed over a million Iraqi civilians on this plagiarised dossier: Downing Street’s dossier against Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction is accused of plagiarism. Channel Four News has learnt that the bulk of an intelligence dossier heralded by Colin Powell at the UN yesterday, was copied from three different articles – one written by a graduate student”. BocScar, Do you really think they will tell us the truth after the above quotes?
-Because they are lying, thieving, murdering bastards.- I’m talking of the DE & CC document referenced in the video. On the one hand you accept this document when it speaks of stratospheric aerosols, but on the other hand you reject it when it states that geoengineering might not even be possible. So is the DE&CC document true or a lie?
What do you think I think?
I’m not sure what you think. I’m not sure. You seem to agree with the parts of the DECC document that fit your preconceived notions, and disagree with the parts that don’t. You use this government document to “prove” they are conducting geoengineering, but ignore the part where it says that geoengineering might not be possible. I’m asking for clarification.
Going back a couple of months, people like Stars15k, o0Nighthawk0o, Shilltastic and possibly you were stating there was no evidence of such programs and chemtrails were just water vapour. Nothing was and could be sprayed in the skies. This is a government document which states such programs and is inviting private research companies to share their research and knowledge. These programs are happening right now. Stop moving the goal posts. Chemtrails are real.
-These programs are happening right now.- So according to you the government is publicly inviting research companies and publishing feasibility studies on the Internet while at the same time secretly spraying the sky in full daylight, hoping nobody will notice. The DECC document offers possible quick fix solutions to mitigate global warming and then it cautions that these solutions are dangerous and might not even be feasible.
Private companies are spraying yes. So at last you acknowledge chemtrails. Thankyou.
What are private companies spraying in the air?
You tell me. You’re paid to do this “argumentum ad hominem”
You are the one that claims private companies are spraying. I assume you know what you are talking about. So please tell me, what private companies are spraying? I really want to know.
Hold on let me look in the yellow pages.
So, I take it you don’t know. You claim private companies are conducting secret spraying operations but can’t even name one of them. How can you conclude that private companies are involved? On what are you basing your statement that private companies are involved?
We live in a Corporate world, they’re all Private companies. Even you are a corporation.
What’s your point?
Just looking for human qualities.. U failed.
This isn’t a philosophical discussion about human nature. The guy made a concrete statement that private companies are spraying the air. If he knows these companies are private then he must also know their names.
If you could just stop beating your bishop for a moment and look at the reply I have sent you.
Stating that the scientific community is researching solutions to our environmental mess is not acknowledging “chemtrails”. The word “chemtrail” implies covert programs to dumb down the population or block out the sun by deliberately using chemicals. I do not acknowledge “chemtrails” and I’ve tried to point out that neither does the DECC document.
Chemical Contrails then. Spraying or releasing chemicals via aerosol or the exhaust of aircraft fuel. They are doing exactly what it says on the tin. It is interesting you say “dumb down”?? That is very telling BocScar. I’ve been talking about Global Dimming.
I’ll ask you again. What are private companies spraying in the air?
Page 26 of the pdf states “if other parties, countries and institutions wished to develop a shared approach, DECC would be interested in sharing expertise, and in helping to develop an initial detailed scoping study”. Google these: ukca ac uk – GLOMAP – SLIMCAT/TOMCAT – CiTTyCAT – EU Aerosol IP – AEROCOM emissions/validation – EUSAAR data
They are looking to partner with the private sector to “develop an initial scoping study”. initial… study… How do you conclude from that statement that private companies are currently engaged in a global dimming campaign? These are either feasibility studies, environmental studies and one of them only tries to set research protocols for data base sharing… but never mind… Which one of those companies is currently engaged in a covert global dimming campaign?
WOW BocScar how do “YOU” know about these sites and give an answer so quickly? Can you do me a favour here? Please swear on your families life, the generations of your family which are now in the spirit world and ALL the genetic strain of your family in the future that YOU, are not involved in any way with chemtrails, chemical contrails, the military, and the government. And you are just some regular youtube user. So I BocScar swear (You fill in the rest here)
You told me about the sites… so I looked at them. These people can loosely be characterized as atmospheric researchers. I swear I am not in the service of any government or any secret society to misinform anyone about anything nor am I involved directly or indirectly in perpetrating illegal covert chemical campaigns against the atmosphere or the population. LOL Look… you make statements like “private companies are spraying”, “chemtrails are real”. I’m asking you to explain yourself because I don’t see it. Every time one asks for some kind of evidence you guys point to publicly available government documents produced by the same government you claim is secretly conducting the spraying. You claim the DECC document proves “chemtrails” but ignore its conclusion that geoengineering is not advisable and may not even be feasible.
Thankyou for swearing BocScar. All I know is what I see and what I have researched. I am an artist by trade and I paint landscapes. I love to draw clouds. I am always looking at clouds ever since I was 4 years old and my mum pointed out a face in the cloud. From then on I have always looked up at clouds and I have made faces out of what I see. Back in February during a landscape photography assignment I became aware of the chemtrails, white lines. That is when the spraying started in my area. I am a very aware person, I follow the seasons and live with nature. I love sunsets and follow the moon. I know where it will be rising with a given tree in my area. I count the swallows that come and nest here and count the new brood that leaves. I have a photographic memory and have over 200 art and photography books and know which picture is in which books. I don’t like change. BocScar, I know what contrails are. The white lines now in the sky are not normal, they really aren’t right.
Without a doubt, increased contrail formation has an environmental impact. I just challenge the notion that it is a covert government operation to block the sun or kill people. Contrails are a consequence of air travel, just like smog is a consequence of car usage. I’m just a regular guy and I have never seen any evidence of weather modification other than cloud seeding. I don’t consider atmospheric research to be geoengineering nor do I consider persistent contrails to be “chemtrails”. I’ve read the DECC document and it’s a preliminary assessment paper that concludes there are large uncertainties regarding the effectiveness, impacts, technical feasibility, cost and risks of geoengineering.
BocScar. Well said. You must be aware these sad simple believers and their voodoo video Priests of Piffle havent the faintest idea of the Planet they are on or how it works. But they do share a genuine concern for what they see outside above them. And so they and you should. A Jet exhaust made 6-8mile high layer of reflective day heat trapping cloud, Contrail-Cirrus, is a Climate Changing Cloud of Combustion. A Global unintended Geo-engineering Environmental Disaster.
Just google “Downing St dossier plagiarised”. They lied, they have committed murder. Something is NOT right here. Me thinks they will do it again.
me too, Bocscar, if hes not being paid by this industry, is totally mind wiped on all of these issues about weather modification, save your energy, Bocscar is insincere and just soapboxs for attention, good or bad. He knows it’s real he spends everyday trying to talk “WITNESS'” down from what thy’ve seen. But he has no argument at all, he just flames through disjointed arguments, a waste of time dewd
He was convincing, but easy to put right. Thanks for that info.
-if hes not being paid by this industry, is totally mind wiped – Once again the you demonstrate your ability to come to conclusions without facts. The same logic leads you to believe “they” are secretly modifying the weather in full daylight and nobody but astute YouTube videographers are clever enough to notice.
Chemtrails are obvious to children now. They have to say something now. You rather them disclose it’s part of bio weapons and psych warfare Haarp EMF weapons? Climate control is a cover story. Now run out and push this disinfo to your neighboors so they pay carbon taxes and believe Al Gore’s scam.
Thank you for this very informative video. Chemtrail particles are now beginning to be included in Science books and being taught in high schools. Some Science books are referring to it as ‘PARTICLE AIR”. See Centerpoint Learning Science 1 Essential Interactions Science Book Section 5:19 Solutions for Global Warming. Peace.
Here’s and interesting patent: Powder contrail generation United States Patent 3899144 abstract: Light scattering pigment powder particles, surface treated to minimize inparticle cohesive forces, are dispensed from a jet mill deagglomerator as separate single particles to produce a powder contrail having maximum visibility or radiation scattering ability for a given weight material.
Of coarse you realize that these are the same quacks who are intentionally poisoniong our children with vaccines and makeing males of every species sterile with plastics. And now we are letting them tinker with the only planet we have!
It actually reads that like they are already doing this and are wondering whether or not doing it on Global level will work…
don’t want to be the ‘bad guy’ here, but all this document is saying what they have ‘researched’ to be possible solutions to their made-up crisis. It’s certainly no proof of them admitting they are doing the chemtrails currently.
very well put together congrads. Geoff
Excellent work. Thank you!
great research! yep obama announced in jan or feb this year that they may ‘have-to’ fill the sky with aluminium particles to deflect the sun. theyve backed off here for four days now (touch-wood) after several weeks of constant disbursal. I am curious as to why they have been so busy over populated areas, a bit sus in light of the foreseen risk to public health.
-after several weeks of constant disbursal.- Disbursal? I someone handing out money? What exactly do you believe they are dispersing?
Anything they want, under the guise of global warming. Modern medicine is all about nano particles and aerosol dispersion.
Modern medicine is the only reason we are not being killed by Smallpox like the 500 million that died from it in the 20th century. Nutrition and modern medicine is why our lifespans have doubled. If “they” have a plan to kill us then better food and medicines are a very strange way to go about it.
GMO is not a better form of food.. Have you ever watched the commericals for medicine. HA I would rather have whatever it is then all the side effects. Also almost all of them say on rare occasion death may occure. The meds for depression, & ADD, MAKE you a zombie/ makes you want to kill your self or someone else. AND they have cures for many things that DON’T involve MMM BUT they would rather keep taking the money. BTW Check out Denver international airport Video, and the stonehenge one also.
Ya right! You would rather have the disease then suffer possible side affects of the medication. Tell yourself that the next time you need Penicillin or if you ever get cancer.
Very interesting avatar BocScar, can I ask where you got it from?
Google images. I think I typed the keyword “symbols”. I’ve always found the image geometrically interesting.
Penicillin is a natural antibiotic. Another things I also stated was that they have cures USING natural things to cure such diseases or illness.. They to have the CURE for cancer and diabates…I CAN’T SPELL sue me if anything is wrong.. LOL.. For things such as RLS, Sleeping or non sleeping issues or if my minds run in circles do to ADD. NO I WILL not take what they have made. They have moved AWAY from the things nature gives us & that is scary.
If Penicillin is a natural derivative or not is irrelevant to my comment. You said you would prefer to suffer the disease than possible side affects from the treatment. Good for you. I don’t care if you can’t spell or express yourself any more than I care if you refuse to take prescribed medication.
I will take medicine if it is Natural that is what I’m saying.. if you don’t care why did you come back an waste time typing. Anyways,,, CHEMtrails are real… Good luck with seeing that.. Peace to you
Bla bla bla… If you ever get cancer, you will take anything that will save your life, whether it’s “natural” or not.
All this time and you come back BLA BLA BLA you don’t know me.. If I ever develop cancer.. I WILL FIGHT each and every doctor and/or Organization for the REAL cure that they have hidden from Humanity… TRUST THAT… Cancer HAS A CURE…
Weed oil, laetrile (B17), MMS, lots of things.
Without inflamations, you CAN’T? get cancer. Thought you’d like to know.
If the earth is allowed to do its natural thing. Extra sun and heat/radiation will evaporate MORE water from the oceans, so creating more natural cloud cover, then natural rain. They don’t want that, they only want death to tell you the truth. They are not in harmony with the earth just their ego sociopathic conversations at the dinner table.
someones getting money to fly around in no particular route to disburse particulated dust that effect the weather. To ‘disburse’ means to ‘spread out” it isnt a term money specific. What they are disbursing is currently under investigation and double blind back testing is now being performed in several reputable universities to determine exactly whats in the air in the disbursal areas. I told u b4 Its not an issue of belief why do you debunkers always fall back on the same emotive arguments?
-double blind back testing is now being performed in several reputable universities – Links please. I’m going to go out on a limb here and guess that nowhere in any of these studies will they mention “chemtrails” or “secret government dimming operations”. These are probably typical environmental studies but you guys use them as evidence that someone is looking into your paranoid claims.
You know for a fact that they are spraying but you don’t know what they are spraying. OK. Let’s start with this: How do you know they are deliberately spraying chemicals?
What gets me when I point out/complain about this to others is that they tell me–there couldn’t possibly be a deliberate poisoning agenda, because they would be poisoning their own children/families. Don’t know what to say back.
great research! there are similar documents” not as specific” on the CFR website under the title”geo-engineering” where obamas team had recently updated the site to include planetary engineering techniques! but this blows that away! awesome work! is there a link to the original document! would love to see and spread to all!!!!
In the description…
You know what might shut down this operation? A pilots strike. Anytime you board an aircraft or are within air shot of an airliner pilot, you should educate them about chemtrails being aluminum and pathogens and neither being healthy for people. If enough pilots knew that they were killing their own sons and daughters with their flying spraying aluminum, maybe they’d strike. Airport protests also sounds like a good idea.
I just heard the second person from NC who is a patriot claim contrails ALWAYS looked the way chemtrails do. Shows how successfully the media (with the subliminals and chemtrail backgrounds) have conditioned people to believe it’s always been like this and is normal. The f*ckin media suceeded. Check out ironhorse’s vid on clipser. Arrgh
Patriot? More likely traitor and on the pay roll of the disinformational establishment. I stopped a random state senator on the street outside the statehouse and asked if he noticed the chemtrails pointing at the sky. He asked me why they’re spraying. I told him the global warming excuse AND that it’s aluminum and pathogens and more likely REALLY to murder people. He seemed genuinely interested and mildly aware, like he had noticed. People pretending they don’t see it are most likely traitors.
the real downside being that the generation “y” who are present in abundance online, havnt experienced alot of unmanipulated weather in their life. Born after 85′ and these young adults have nothing to rate the appearance of the sky against. Therefore theyre quite unconcerned with ‘them’ making clouds… easily fooled by the bogus ‘disinf’ websites that abound online. theyve been blinded. our hope is with the older generations who can remember.
This is the format of a decent video – loaded with information. Thankyou.
Yes, they do appear to spray more at night. Hands up who’s noticed the thick fog we often get overnight in the season they call ‘summer’?
dude, since february this year i’ve been seeing them. it’s warm where i live plus i camp a lot, so since february i’ve seen an incremental increase in chemtrailing.
Hey my dear and intelligent friends! I truly hope that none of you are fooled by their attempts to say they are trying to prevent climate change and its quickening pace! Mankind may be 1% at fault, but It’s not us alone AT ALL, causing the Globe to warm, its Solar Cycles, over 30000 scientists have proven this and know it, as millions of others do! The elite know they can’t reverse it, they? know many prophetic events will occur before Global Warming’s effects even reach a height! God Bless all!
Yes GODLOVESUSSOMUCH, you are right. ALL of the planets are warming – even the uninhabited ones – which proves without doubt that this is a ‘natural’ occurrance. Don’t people ever think back to their school days? THEY taught us that climate change has occurred in the past and that mankind survived it – even without paying carbon tax! LOL to the carbon tax! Thanks for continuing this truthful point, that any sane person can and will see, sadly many intelligent people hold on to what some corrupted or misinformed scientists, have stated as true science, when its not! Keep spreading the good truth bro, even that which is not sugar coated, just as God did not sugar coat the times we are in & nearing. There are troubles ahead, yet an eternally happy ending for those that seek the path of love & truth found in Christ! God Bless!
First Chemtrails is no solution for global warming. Global warming is about done anyhow. We’re running out of oil to pollute the skys with and the north pole already melted into the oceans which has a chilling effect that has been studied and shown to cause ICE AGE in an average 3 years. Ice Age is the new problem. 2nd, it’s not about whether people will survive, of course we will. But its a matter of what living conditions we’ll experience and it’s not looking good at all.
Very true I made a video about this 2 weeks ago. There are so many different reasons for why the spraying is happening and over night they could decide to spray something totally different. People are getting used to seeing white lines in the sky so if they decided to suddenly spray Agent US or Brucella people wouldn’t even know or question, they would say “That plane is low today” As the elite are safely underground.
Yooo MR 77info! That’s the truth of this sick matter right there, they don’t care and even though they are not at all ashamed of their evil agenda, they definitely do much more spraying at night, to secure that their plans will not be headed or stopped like history has shown their plans to be, and they will again…They don’t learn, at least that which is important! Also so true how they try to make these trails seem so casual, putting them in tv media advertisements, even games and movies! =)
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wow, the american media has hit a new low. no wonder there are so many stupid people who believe in chem trails, with the american population trusting everything the media throws in front of them it is no wonder that people believe in chem trails.
Chemtrails are well documented tainted airplane exhaust comtrails saturating and obliterating our skies with deadly toxins. Soda pop is an out dated term for carbonated sugar water. Why are there so many hateful naysayers trying to obscure discussion and critical research into these matters? Hmmm…
No, why are you SO STUPID as to believe that:
1. Contrails CAN’T be persistent.
2. Their contents can be collected by trays on the ground, and NOTHING else will get in the trays.
3. That the US can AFFORD to cover the Earth in Barium, Aluminum, Silver.
4. That it is POISONING you (yet NO-ONE has died).
5. That passenger planes CAN be fitted with poison sprays, yet no-one DIES, “FINGERS”, GETS INFECTED.
“Chemtrails” ARE SODA POP. Put them through a carbon filter for sure, and each mile of “chemtrail” will get you a crate of soda pop.
The stratosphere is stable and layered like an onion with layers of differing humidities. A “saturated” layer will NOT reabsorb the trail, which will slowly fall and form stratus or cirrus cloud. That is what you see…
Want some soda pop? I’m nuts for soda pop! Are you?
Yo Jazzroc–when they do go live with the mass extermination and you’re dying from Ebola, enjoy that soda (you probably like the stuff that has Aspartame in it). Meanwhile, a global network of responsible citizens is forming to confront this menace.
“Responsible citizens” are people who THINK before they ACT. In your case, you’ve a job ahead of you – to LEARN to THINK. I’d rather that people like you were supporting the NWO – you’d mess them right up!
1) We need an comprehensive global ban on these practices.
2) There needs to be an international inspection regime over all aircraft worldwide with criminal penalties for the existence of aerosol dispersal devices.
3) National security exclusions to FOIA requests need to be abrogated and immediate worldwide disclosure of these practices documented.
Document redaction should be criminalized.
Jolly good. Best use the UN for this. Haha. But apparently (so the scuttlebutt goes!) the UN is PART of the conspiracy to, er, depopulate…
Best draw up a World Citizens’ Army then. Then fly about from airport to airport enforcing…
Those that don’t can get their videocams out and film you “spraying” as you go, and SHOOT you when you land…
‘You’re quoting a research report.’
Correct. From 1992. Spraying operations began by most people’s accounts, in late 1998.
Keep in mind, this report was authorized by Congress and sponsored by the National Academy of Sciences. This report concludes that this technique of aerial spraying is the most cost effective and efficient method (of the varius options mentioned) for increasing planetary albedo in response to a “global warming” scenario.
Senior researchers, faculty, theoreticians, atmospheric scientists, department heads and CEO’s from a multitude of prestigious institutions took part in this report.
The Smithsonian, Harvard, General Motors, Cambridge, MIT, Yale, World Resources Institute, National Center for Atmospheric Research, the Secretary General of the United Nations, Oxford, Brookings Institution, Columbia University, Oak Ridge National Laboratory, Carnegie-Mellon University, Princeton University, Brown University, Lawrence Livermore Laboratory, and there’s more, if you look.
‘It’s the title, isn’t it? Filming a harmless event with the false implication of harm can cause needless distress and foment discord, even if you believe you’re saving the world…’
I’d like you to start a journey of discovery, that is, if you are willing. Since we agree that even if it’s water up there, and nothing harmful at all… you will now begin to see the darker side of the science of geoengineering.
Google this US patent: US5003186
Notice the patent holder? Hughes Aircraft (now Raytheon) is one of the US’s largest defense contractors in the area of Aerospace.
Read what’s in the mix, my friend…
‘2. The method of claim wherein said material comprises one or more of the oxides of metals.’
You read up on Welsbach materials. That’s your homework assignment.
A method is disclosed for reducing atmospheric warming due to the greenhouse effect resulting from a greenhouse gases layer. The method comprises the step of seeding the greenhouse gas layer with a quantity of tiny particles of materials characterized by wavelength-dependent emissivity or reflectivity, in that said materials have high emissivities in the visible and far infrared wavelength regions and low emissivity in the near infrared wavelength region. Such materials can include the class of materials known as Welsbach materials. The oxides of metal, e.g., aluminum oxide, are also suitable for the purpose. The greenhouse gases layer typically extends between about seven and thirteen kilometers above the earth’s surface. The seeding of the stratosphere occurs within this layer. The particles suspended in the stratosphere as a result of the seeding provide a mechanism for converting the blackbody radiation emitted by the earth at near infrared wavelengths into radiation in the visible and far infrared wavelength so that this heat energy may be reradiated out into space, thereby reducing the global warming due to the greenhouse effect.
Very interesting. I have a few questions:
Do commercial turbofan engine injectors safely pass these refractory solids between 10 and 100 microns?
How do filamentary materials figure in all this?
Or biological materials?
You realise that a single “coating” (1 particle/sq.cm) for the US weighs 170,000 tonnes? and you’d have to renew it?
Well, 170,000 tonnes is within any major paint manfr’s brief I suppose. But DELIVERY would be HARD.
And treating the globe would be outside our capabilities.
The Aluminum-Barium argument is rendered obsolete by the YouTube clip below
Why squander fuel, occlude your skies, and poison your population, when this CHEAPER AND MORE PRACTICAL operation can be carried out in the South Atlantic and Pacific?
The clip is one of FIVE WAYS TO COOL THE EARTH – a googlevid.
The price of space mirrors and artificial trees is FAR too high, rocketed sulfur FAR too risky, only this idea and ocean phytoplankton feeding make sound practical and economic sense, can be begun TODAY, and carried out in WEEKS.
Co-opting living creatures is a million times MORE EFFECTIVE than employing technology.
I DON’T believe what any government says, ever. If it said “It’s a fine day”, I’d run out and check BOTH front AND back. And THEN I’d REMAIN NERVOUS
What SO pisses me off is that FAR TOO FEW PEOPLE think PROPERLY
Do you realise HOW WEAK a people is when it doesn’t have sufficient scientific understanding? When it CANNOT follow a LOGICAL train of thought?
When it lacks the basic life-skills to SURVIVE technological collapse?
CT supporters are HARDENED in their weakness. They FEAR science, which is in truth their ONLY salvation. They don’t know how to farm, make clothes, make things, make provisions – they barely know how to cook. If the NWO WERE to “depopulate” them, they’d murder each other at the doors of empty supermarkets
There are MANY ironies. Earlier govt attempts to protect people from germ warfare are NOW construed as “practice” attempts at depopulation.
SMALL experiments of geo-engineering are NOW considered PROOF of of govt attempts to reduce immunity. The list goes on and on….
If there is to be a conflagration (and 2012 seems about right to me!) then I REALLY DON’T WANT TO BE INVOLVED. I DO NOT WANT TO BE KILLED IN SOME GADARENE STAMPEDE!
Maybe human “civilisations” CANNOT LAST. It is ANOTHER IRONY, it seems to me, that once we lived in continual fear of NUCLEAR SPASM (THE BANG!) and now it seems it’s going to be SOCIO-ECONOMIC COLLAPSE (THE WHIMPER!) brought about, in part, by the CHEMTRAIL PARANOIA. The rest, and greater part, of course, seems to be the moral collapse of the US govt.
EVERY PILLAR of the “chemtrail” hypothesis proves on examination to be UTTERLY FALSE. It is based on BAD SCIENCE and LOOSE ASSOCIATION. It is a complete and utter CHIMAERA – a tragic waste of time – only distinguishable from WARFARE by its LACK OF DEATHS.
But it has PLENTY OF VICTIMS, and PLENTY MORE TO COME…
“911-martial-fourth planned coup-1934-1963-1972-Executive O 11647-11731-1973-Failed-passed -Trilateral Com-1974-Obama-three weeks”
Great stuff. Means bugger-all when “chemtrails” turn out to be plain old contrails and you turn out to be bottom of your class in atmospheric physics. How long have you spent in this totally useless activity? Just think how much of your life you would save if you went to school. Just think of the good things you could have been doing instead.
Sure it just so happens. Why should I believe you when all you do is spread hatred. Only you will be on here 24/7 next week and thereafter unless you change your account name again. The vulgar way you speak to others in these chat rooms I hope I never have to see you in the hospital or call your hotline
I spend a total of 2 hours a day ridiculing those who continue sick fear mongering practices. It’s just so happened that I have a week off from work. How about you? I am employed, I work 2 jobs to support my family.
1. I am an Emergency 911 operator and
2. Bio/chemical technician.
Those with the alleged IQ are being very stupid about this time unless they wake up before the next 911, martial law, a fourth planned military coup. Three planned military coups were attempted in our history as evidenced by congressional investigation in 1934, one in 1960 -1963 and that scum named Nixon planned one from 1969 to 1972, as evidenced by Executive Order 11647 and 11731 in 1972 to 1973. Failed but passed on to the Trilateral Commission in 1974. Obama completed this plan three weeks ago.
Science is made up by the money and control by the Masons, CFR, and Rockefeller foundation money. Try again with your fantasies. History is proven to be fabricated, science goes out to the Agenda set by the emerging world order. 300 microbiologists were murdered around the year 2000 to 2002….the names are available. You best wake up before our next civil war and martial law does.
@frick….I spend no hours, I know they are real. Factual Documented Scientific information….lol….:)) Oh, like the age of the universe, or the we now came from fish or better yet, Global warming? Please, I’ll read Wizard of Oz another Illuminati production for fun. 🙂
How many hours in a day do you spend ridiculing others and spreading your lies? 24/7. You’re on all the pages doing the same thing. Gosh you sure do spend a lot of time 24/7 on pages that you know are just hoopla. You must be part of the 22% of unemployed Americans. You’ve got too much time on your hands or your getting paid by Cass Sunstein and his COINTELPRO agency.
Expanding chemtrails can be seen daily now in my town. This is not even physically possible but it happens daily. Look up!
lol great comment moneymail002. ‘your overlords’ – My overlords are your overlords according to your belief system. If such overlords exist they’re in power and you are just a simple taxpayer just like the rest of us. lol So why would you think you’ve gained freedom from them? How many hours in a day do you spend convincing yourself that chemtrails are real? I wish you spent and equal number of hours reading factual documented scientific information and used some constructive critical thinking as well. Perhaps you would discover that the world isn’t such a scary place after all.
Why do people sit there and say their government IS doing this or that? All of your “proof” is based on unproven assumptions and has no validity whatsoever; it originates in this RELIGION that says the government and scientists are some sort of entirely separate social tier concerned mainly with the destruction of the rest of society. Yet for some reason you seem shocked when people with an IQ and an understanding of science above those of the average monkey refuse to believe your crap.
cointelpro? Goodness, did it ever cross your mind that perhaps these people who are commenting in regards to the propaganda TrutherD1 is spreading, are simply stating hard scientific facts to disperse the multitude of crap built up around stupid conspiracy theories?
The conspiracy is true. The crap is made up of those lying about a conspiracy theory…there is no theory. It is fact. Most all of the events today and in the past are part of this unified conspiracy. The evidence is irrefutable. If you want I can send you the references, thumbnail list, of 8 pages and a chronology that is supported by scholarily research that covers over 140 pages+ a summary. bring it on.
I know your “list”. It is pseudoscience. Your “evidence” isn’t refutable because it isn’t evidence. 8 pages of pseudoscience only has value as COMPOST. ALL your miserable “work” has been through contrailscience. com and jazzroc. wordpress, com and been torn to shreds. Such shreds are plant food. Are you a plant? Do you photosynthesize? You certainly don’t THINK.
lol….you types are all alike. You actually think that your useless diatribe is effective. There isn’t a history or economic professor that could refute the truth. They can lie, and then go to the CFR bank as they are prostitutes for the eiltes like Ayn Rand was. You just might have a point. Its easier for you people to lie and deny since you apparently have no soul. The truth however won’t be denied in due time. There is nothing you can do about that.
Oh, your overlords are getting ready to pull something. They just don’t know that they are signing their own death warrant.
Yeah. It’s been tough here in Tenerife. My God, man, it RAINED here last night! I had to pick my way round the puddles as I walked down the town with my dear little dog to buy some bread and ham for my breakfast. Then when I returned to my desk I discovered I was in “communication” (apparently) with a blind and stupid egocentric arsehole blowing out compost, and believing it to be “truth”. SCIENCE refutes your miserable and pathetic lies with ease. “History” “Economics”? LOL
Well said beachcomber2008.
YOU HAVE TO SEE THIS: ULTIMATE PROOF OF CHEMTRAIL SPRAYING! watch?v=MRUqogeAgHo watch?v=VLA0yejkeYM watch?v=qSDkdOpjiSc&feature=re lated
NASA = Admit Zero! We are not idiots, we are a collective, we are oneness, we are 11:11 we are awakened giants.
Thank you so much for the compliments! I appreciate your acknowledgement of my informative channel. By all means, you are welcome to view my channel at any time. Bye bye for now JAZZ(BANNED)ROC.
ffs… Nut cases from A to Z…
Why do people sit there and say their government isn’t doing this or that, instead of actively questioning said government? Why defend something you have no idea about..
Why propose something of which you are completely ignorant? You do. The reflection of this ignorance is the ignorance you so foolishly project upon others. It is confirmed by the lies you have already accepted. And the consequences of which, which you haven’t, because you certainly lack the means to foresee them. The bill for this life course direction will be paid in full by you – one day.
@truther..those that are going after you are more than likely cointelpro. Alex Jones gets his stuff from them and in fact works for the elites as does Ron Paul (Mason) and Naomi Wolf. They are the ones pretending to be on our side but work different roles for the globalist.
@tgambill, Thanks for the heads-up – I know you’re right. For the last few months the same guys have been responding with aggression and ridicule even of legitimate and recognized science. It quickly became obvious their whole mission here is to parrot the govt. story and ridicule and distract good people seeking honest answers.
Now, link the chemicals with mind control, ELF and GWEN Towers, and HAARP. This should really get your interest peaked when “DISCLOSURE” and “Day of Declaration” comes in July, with the Benjamin Creme and this weirdo named Maitreya. They work together. The chemtrails have Barium Oxide, Aluminum Oxide (rainbow colors) and Barium Chloride on occasion. The purpose is to destroy the immune system and in fact the chemicals have killed off the bee population. The bees account for 80% of the natural food supply. This will aid in the food genocide later to support Kissinger’ NSSM 200 Depopulation Plan to reduce the worlds population. In heavy spraying causes seizures, Pre-mature births, lung problems, etc…it is a conspiracy, fact.
show yourself shill’
@beachcomber2008, Yeah they send weather balloons once, twice a day, sometimes hourly. If conditions say no contrails ’til 10km and you see a low-level trail it would make sense to become suspicious.
All the fraudulent Rosalind’s questions have normal scientific answers. Patrick Minnis is the foremost expert on satellite atmospheric studies. Particulates made of ICE CANNOT BE POLLUTION. Viruses, fungi and bacteria, are brought down by the water in the atmosphere. William Thomas doesn’t seem to notice that complaints come from cities, which ARE places you DO get viruses, fungi and bacteria. A bollocks programme, and a bollocks post…
@beachcomber2008, Do you work for the government? What’s the harm in investigating?
investigating something for which there is already an accurate and cogent explanation is a waste of time which would have been better spent investigating something worthwhile. You and the fraudulent bitch above are worse than useless – YOU are just about as harmful as you can get without actually “chemtrailing” yourself. Do I make myself clear, DUMMY?
heavy chemtrails again today! DAILY when i can see the blue skies!
Research ”ENMOD” treaty at the U.N. site, State department website and read ”Between Two Ages”. The water supply is ”poisoned” and so now is the food supply genetically modified. This was done decades before without approval by ”representatives”.
Discovery basically avoids the real issue. Just search for “chemtrails” and check any other result than this one. LOL
Powerful stuff!, great video mate!. Check out peyote the band on my space. The track “Don’t Waste Any Time” mentions this stuff. Nice to hear this message making it into the mainstream!
@brad213 – they are creating ‘ climate change’ to unite the world into a one world government, and to acheive the ‘mother earth ‘cults agenda.
I always leave room for doubt… but I will you are right on because I have some of the evidence.
We all breathe the same air. What would anyone benefit from poisoning the oxygen within our atmosphere. Wouldnt it be easier to poison our water supplies?
scaremenga, you really are brillant aren’t u? have you checked out the unemployment rate lately? god, there’s SO MUCH work out there isn’t there! LMAO! p.s. the perfect slave believes he’s free, u are a perfect slave! chemtrails daily when i can see the blue skies!
YOU HAVE TO SEE THIS: ULTIMATE PROOF OF CHEMTRAIL SPRAYING! watch?v=MRUqogeAgHo watch?v=VLA0yejkeYM
chemtrails are there to prohibit ufos from entering our atmosphere. research the magnetic and energetic properties of chemtrails and probable
ufo propulsion systems
can you tell me more about this?
Here’s an interview with a guy who used to be on the inside of the chemtrails project, aka clover leaf? Give it a listen, make up your own mind. it won’t let me post this thing for some reason, so I’ll try it without the URL, instead just put the following into the youtube search browser. Ex government employee talks about chemtrails
i really dont know what to say. you need to slow down and think about what your saying!
Chemtrail spraying is boldly being done right over unprotected civilian populations, such as what is happening in the following video: v=uRoNDxAWQo4
Again with the go back to sleep? Isn’t the job of “Truthers” to wake those who are asleep up? LOL. Yeah, I should be asking that question. Why would they want to kill us slowly? So they can have more work to do? it would be easier to enslave us all, especially if they are as advanced as you people say they are. How do you know how much they plan to eliminate? Did they publish a “NWO Manifesto” somewhere?
WOW is right! CONtrails daily when i can see the blue skies! scaremenga and mrfatandslow PLEASE go back to sleep or just get a good copy of the 911 commission report, should keep you sheeple busy for YEARS!
WOW to all u idiots who really beleive that our government is trying to take care of you=== UR A BUNCH OF IDIOTS! It’s because of ignorant people like you that these things are going on. Use COMMON SENSE! Look in the sky. When would normal planes blow out THICK FLUFFY clouds of smoke that hang in the air for hours up to a full day? THEY DONT! &if you’ve ever seen these planes – they will blow out the chemicals and stop. If this was normal engine ejections they would continue the whole flight!
whats it like to live a life of such deep paranoid thoughts that you believe the goverment wants to kill you? enjoy your fantasy world!
“Why would the “NWO” want to destroy the population.” Are you sure you should really be asking that question? That is in fact one of their “goals” if you will. They plan to eliminate about 90% of the worlds population.
scaremenga a lot of it has to do with weather manipulation and radar obscuration. Unfortunately, what they’re using to do this is not healthy for us to be breathing.
no your a stuped fucking bastard when a jet engine burns its fuel you get vapor that comes out the back which is harmless water freezing
problem with opinions is some of them have no base or real concrete evidence, and a lot of opinions are formed by subjective, emotional thinking instead of logical thought. So most of these things you call opinions are instead theories or speculations. I just saw yesterday for the first time in my life about 30 “trails” in the sky in my area. I have a couple ideas of what they are, but I have not encountered enough evidence either way to sway me into a conspiracy opinionist.
scaremenga please go back to sleep, awesome vid KarakulBrigand! watch STESSO AEREO, SCIE DIVERSE! 4 trails only 2 persist! awesome catch! i see someone doesn’t like this one, they spammed u! lol! ANOTHER day with chemtrails here in s.e.wisconsin today, daily when i can see the blue skies! just gotta observe daily and not believe WORDS that are fed to you! ps. polarized sunglasses are a priceless tool!
LOL. I thought the mission of people like you were to wake up these “sheeple” and here you are telling me to go back to sleep, into my world of “fantasies”. I’d rather die in me sleep, metaphorically speaking, than die wide awake. That’s just me. ROFL. Don’t call me an ignorant loser either. I used to believe in chemtrails too, but evidence I found on a variety of unbiased websites, like the one with the largest datebase of aircraft photos, has obviously reversed my views. couldn’t help this, but aren’t you guys feeding me words right now? In the form of videos and flame comments? You’re no better than the people you’re “fighting against”!
Watch this vid: STESSO AEREO, SCIE DIVERSE! same plane, different trails! Four trails two persist two do not.
set up because they know once they scare everybodi into getin the swine flu shot there are gonna be plenty of deaths oh and guess what isnt that what they want to depopulate the planet so there will be less people to control in the new world order do research because im not making any of this up to scare anyone its all fact there are tons of videos on youtube that that prove me right thanks for the complement also an f ur taught to keep an open mind then open ur mind to some research
I did do some research. I was also taught that just because someone has an opposing viewpoint, doesn’t mean they are wrong. Everyone’s entitled to their opinions, just as you are. Were you taught that in school? There’s tons of videos that prove me right too. Why would the “NWO” want to destroy the population. Who wants to rule a crippled population? Even if they dominate the world, then they’ll have billions of sick *frankly* losers under their whips. How fun.
yes I have no clue wat a grid system or sumthin is maby I should look it up but if our govornment loves us so much why do they have fema camps set up all over the usa why do they have concrete cofins ur an idiot and yes they do because they dont want us riseing against the new world order there tryna creat okay in high school they teach you to obey obey obey and college is just more enslavement for the people why do people go to college get out an work at walmart if thats the case then you dont need to go to college u brainwashed dummy they also tryna kill us with there swine flu shoots why do we need mercury and swaline in out bodies cuz they tryna kill us and these are some of the ingr
I’m not brainwashed to obey; the exact opposite in fact. All of my teachers, especially my AP Euro teacher, encourages us to maintain an open mind. He links Europe’s sour past with ignorance and obedience. And if there’s anybody against total obedience, it would be me. Did I ever judge you personally? No. So there’s no purpose to call me an idiot. If swine flu shots are so bad, don’t get them. You’re not forced to. Instead of accusing, maybe you should research the grid system. contrails
I am sorry I pissed you off. What does the space preservation act actually say about chemtrails? Contrails can be persistent, if the humidity of the surrounding air is high. It’s not rocket science. If the air is dry, the contrails will sublimate quickly, turning the ice crystals into water vapour. If the air is humid, the surrounding air can’t hold more water than it already does, and the contrail is persistent.
Umm I dont have to sit in front of a computer to view chemtrails I can walk out side ansee them all over the sky like some one is spraying chemicals in an orderly fashion so to your answer ur question you are the dumb one
I’m the dumb one for saying that the government doesn’t want dumb people? Which they don’t? Why are contrails showing up in an orderly fashions? Why don’t you Google the flight grid for your local area, you’ll notice that it’s comprised of lines following “orderly fashion[s]”, it keeps air traffic in a structured matter. Better yet, why don’t you get the tail numbers of these sprayers? And then track them online? Maybe you’ll be able to see they aren’t government-sprayers, and just innocent pax.
Written by JazzRoc
November 12, 2008 at 1:00 am
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Circle of Confusion – ChemCon Alert – Circus – Comment – Cone Trick – CREPUSCULAR SHADOWS
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CIRCLE OF CONFUSION
Our hero here is ebendimention, who, with the careless confidence of a person who has never pushed himself to the limits of his understanding, is forging his brave new world with his videocam. He isn’t a mean-minded SOB like some of them, so I’m a little sympathetic, really. He writes to me:
Hey Jazz Roc…Take a gander at the video I posted here and watch in GREAT detail! Explain it all and you will go down in history as the most pathetic debunker of all time! Or can you do something so minuscule as clicking on my name? LOL You’ll find an enormous amount of debunking work to be done there… I’ll be waiting for your constructive criticism. 🙂
His video outline is this:
AMAZING FOOTAGE OF UFO MAKING TRAILS OVER MAINE SKYLINE! THEN A JET MAKING A CHEMTRAIL IS FOLLOWED BY ORB-LIKE UFO! MANY TRAILS THAT CAST SHADOWS ON HAZE ALSO POINT IN FRONT OF JETS LIKE A BLACK LASER LIGHT POINTING THE WAY! MANY SERIOUS RESEARCHERS WILL HAVE TO PAUSE FRAME BY FRAME TO SEE THE STARTLING DETAIL OF UFO AND WEIRD CHEMICAL LINES. ALL I CAN SAY IS WATCH THIS VIDEO WITH AN OPEN MIND AND BE PREPARED TO BE BLOWN AWAY BY THE SHEER MAGNITUDE AND SCALE OF THESE SECRET BLACK OPs GOING ON ALL OVER THE WORLD!
Get yourself a tripod. Learn to LOCK your videocam focus on INFINITY. Take note of the position of the sun, and try not to get distracted by plastic bags floating aloft.
Then you’ll have NOTHING to write home about… BECAUSE
1) The plane is DARK and BLUE LIGHT SCATTERING renders it invisible
2) The “UFO” is a plastic bag; they frequently get borne aloft
3) Point sources of light (sun reflected off spherical surfaces) form a CIRCLE OF CONFUSION in an out-of-focus image. (“Circle of confusion” is a great collective noun for chemtrailers!)
4) The SUN is ABOVE and BEHIND the aircraft. BENEATH it is a thin layer of CIRRUS on to which the SHADOW of the PLANE and TRAIL are PROJECTED.
Confusion, indeed! This is a classic example of ignorance… he flatly denies that shadows can be thrown onto cloud, and that the trail is between the Sun and the cloud… a case where he is unwilling to learn any geometry.
The rock’n’roll (some of my most favorite tracks of all time!) on this vid makes it worth listening to (sorry, ebendimention!). (I believe he meant to call himself EBEN DIMENSION!)
There is a new website out there keenly focussed on the use and dangers of DHMO – called ChemCon Alert: – “The Sky Really Is Falling”.
This material has killed thousands, perhaps millions, of people in the past, and is theorized to be present in large quantities in the materials sprayed by aircraft in our skies.
Anyway, pay it a visit and see if you agree…
“No one today can possibly view that circus we call the “news” on tv and radio and not see and understand that we are being had” – I HAVE KNOWN THAT FOR THIRTY YEARS.
“you will then have your answer as to who are the perpetrators” – NO YOU WON’T.
“We are forcing them to play their hand” – THE HELL YOU ARE, YOU STUPID MEGALOMANIAC!
“There can be no doubt that the “theatres” around the world, are the Imperial Elitists creation” – THEY’RE ONLY PARTLY. OTHERS GATHER POWER IN THE LOCALITY.
“By-the-way you appear to take things very personally” – OF COURSE I DO. I’M A PERSON.
“it tells all of us here that you and your “friends” have a vested interest in hiding the truth” – I HAVE NO “FRIENDS” – NEITHER YOU NOR THEY LOOK PUKKA TO ME!
“I urge people to raise their heads and do their homework” – YEAH, YEAH, LOOK UP AND DON’T LEARN SCIENCE, BUY SNAKE OIL!
THIS is COMMENT – by Ludosophist: as succinct as it is possible to be and with a needle-sharp accuracy…
Man, you may be on to something about endemic irrationality. Since I posted that video calling into question the existence of chemtrails, I’ve gotten so many nasty comments and messages, people calling me a zombie and a shill, etc. Probably the most zealous are coming here from one of your comments, scrolling down, then dropping into my vid via your link and thinking that I’m like a tipping-point convert that they can influence. I grew up in the Catholic Church man, very averse to the smell of bullshit.
I think, however, that it would be productive to analyze why chemtrails are such a seductive thing to believe in. Part of it is the presentation, you get the propagation of a whole system of memes that seem fairly plausible, largely because they’re based on the more or less factual premise that the government would kill you if there were profit in it. Between the abuses of the constitution, a bankrupting war to secure oil for transnational corporations, 9-11 smoke and the collective hysteria that goes all the way back to Africanized bees (remember those?), it’s not surprising that people would find a global depopulation plan involving mass spraying to be grippingly plausible.
The easiest way to depopulate the planet? Constrain the supply of oil. It doesn’t even have to be intentional, the natural supply shows its expiry date, so you start buying up your shares, bidding up the futures market (futures determine what oil, already available for consumption, is marked for ownership by third parties) and bam, the tendencies of the market system endemically price people out of being able to eat. This is what people should be concerned about, they should be planting up their properties, or trying their damnedest to secure a few acres to plant up, and prepare. Economically, logistically, in real, day-to-day terms, the best thing people can do is encourage others to get into a position where they won’t starve, effecting less aggregate violence and chaos as things tighten.
The more you look to the skies and forget about the earth, the greater your chances of being doomed because you wasted your time in comment wars.
Aviation fuel is not good to drink, but nor is it toxic in the same way that snake venom is.
When burnt and condensed it would make soda pop. A bit of filtering through charcoal might help to remove trace unburnt hydrocarbons, but after that you could sell it in your local store as soda pop. What about the sulfur dioxide, I here you ask? Well, add a little fruit cordial and it would help preserve the freshness of the fruit. The NOX? Ah, you got me there…..but when you consider that the THREE HUNDRED MILLION TONS of aviation fuel burnt every year represents an INCREASE in the atmosphere of FIVE MILLIONTHS OF ONE PER CENT, then you needn’t get too worried.
It might be better to worry about the FIFTEEN HUNDRED ACTIVE VOLCANOES that exist. Now they REALLY ARE active 24/7!
Imagine a cone 243 feet high, made of rock. That weighs a million tons. There’s quite a lot of volcanoes bigger than 243 feet high. Some are MILES high!
Now accept that weight for weight, volcanoes expel at least their own weight in gases, steam, and dust. Now imagine one thousand five hundred of them, working away, night after day, day after night.
Then consider there are possibly TEN THOUSAND ACTIVE VOLCANOES beneath the surface of the oceans. And remember that vulcanism is slowly dying on the Earth as it sheds its original heat and radioactivity.
My dear friend ebendimention came back to me, thanking me for my tutelage, so:
Hello Again Jazzy,
Its been a while, my friend. I say that in open honesty. I have learned a lot about con/chemtrails since my first ‘emotional’ days in ‘07 on the ‘YouTube Scene’.
You have actually done me and the people a great service. If there were no opposing factor, there would not be ’screaming mad’ people looking even harder for real truth.
There was one thing that you said that DID stick with me, and that was when you said, “The world needs some keen investigators”. How right you were.
I understand now that disinformants exist for many reasons. Both pro and con. For me, its been the former.
I dont need to make this long, just know that there was never any hard feelings, and nothing you ever said did I take personally. I guess the end justified the means… at least that’s my perspective.
Please have a ‘look-see’ at my lastest videos. I know what they are not. I think even you will be amazed at what I have filmed. (I think my stargate pictures may be a little much for now)
Id really like to see your comments on them. Even if for ‘old times sake’
Take Care and ‘Keep on Spammin’ lol
He then enclosed videos of contrails with shadows…
WHat he needed to check out was http://www.atoptics.co.uk which could have straightened him out completely on some of the totally non-intuitive aspects of crepuscular shadows. It is in the blog links to the right.
And here is a shuttle launch with shadow it didn’t navigate down. The sound in this video is incredible – but true.
We are told that chemtrail craft navigate by “black laser light”. Really!
These people have never seen Micket Mouse’s rendition of “the Sorcerer’s Apprentice”… 🙂 I can’t provide the original Disney masterpiece, but here’s my synthesizer’s rendition of the music:
The Sorcerer’s Apprentice – Paul Dukas.
Written by JazzRoc
November 11, 2008 at 1:00 am
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CONSPIRACY THEORIES – CONTRAIL FORECAST CHARTS – CONTRAIL FORMATION – CONTRAILS CON-TRICK
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Conspiracy theories find menace in contrails
A new conspiracy theory sweeping the Internet and radio talk shows has set parts of the federal government on edge.
The theory: The white lines of condensed water vapor that jets leave in the sky, called contrails, are actually a toxic substance the government deliberately sprays on an unsuspecting populace.
Federal bureaucracies have gotten thousands of phone calls, e-mails and letters in recent years from people demanding to know what is being sprayed and why. Some of the missives are threatening.
It’s impossible to tell how many supporters these ideas have attracted, but the people who believe them say they’re tired of getting the brush-off from officials. And they’re tired of health problems they blame on “spraying.”
“This is blatant. This is in your face,” says Philip Marie Sr., a retired nuclear quality engineer from Bartlett, N.H., who says the sky above his quiet town is often crisscrossed with “spray” trails.
“No one will address it,” he says. “Everyone stonewalls this thing.”
The situation Marie and others describe is straight out of The X-Files. He and others report one day looking up at the sky and realizing that they were seeing abnormal contrails: contrails that lingered and spread into wispy clouds, multiple contrails arranged in tick-tack-toe-like grids or parallel lines, contrails being laid down by white planes without registration numbers.
Believers call these tracks “chemtrails.” They say they don’t know why the chemicals are being dropped, but that doesn’t stop them from speculating. Many guess that the federal government is trying to slow global warming with compounds that reflect sunlight into the sky. Some propose more ominous theories, such as a government campaign to weed out the old and sick.
Exasperated by persistent questions, the Environmental Protection Agency, NASA, the Federal Aviation Administration and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration joined forces last fall to publish a fact sheet explaining the science of contrail formation. A few months earlier, the Air Force had put out its own fact sheet, which tries to refute its opponents’ arguments point by point.
“If you try to pin these people down and refute things, it’s, ‘Well, you’re just part of the conspiracy,’ ” says atmospheric scientist Patrick Minnis of NASA’s Langley Research Center in Hampton, Va. “Logic is not exactly a real selling point for most of them.”
Nothing is “out there” except water vapor and ice crystals, say irritated scientists who study contrails. Some, such as Minnis, are outraged enough by the claims of chemtrail believers that they have trolled Internet chat rooms to correct misinformation or have gotten into arguments with callers.
“Conspiracy nonsense,” snorts Kenneth Sassen, an atmospheric scientist at the University of Utah. “These things are at 30,000 to 40,000 feet in the atmosphere. They’re tiny particles of ice. They’re not going to affect anyone.”
The cloud-forming contrails that conspiracy theorists find so ominous are “perfectly natural,” Minnis says. The odd grid and parallel-line patterns are easily explained as contrails blown together by the wind, scientists say.
CONTRAIL FORECAST CHARTS
Normal contrails DO form in fairly high humidity. When formed in 100% humidity they will NEVER disappear. If the humidity of that particular stratospheric layer is REDUCED, then in exact proportion the life of that trail will be reduced. This CAN happen; the layer can be lifted from beneath by a rising CUMULUS cloud in the troposphere. But the typical way they disappear is that LOCAL to the trail, the humidity has already been increased by the processes forming the trail: over time the increased humidity “leaks” away from the locality by gaseous diffusion, allowing the trail (of ice crystals) to sublime back into water vapor. Otherwise generally over time, layers FALL, COOL, humidity rises, trails get bigger.
CONTRAILS CON TRICK
There is a new and ominous controversy concerning aircraft contrails and their supposed ill-effects. People with little or no scientific understanding are whipping up a furore over – nothing. This tends to leave all the real ills of the world unattended, and let’s face it, those we know of already are too great and too many to be sufferable. But how much worse it is when the (already!) deluded dream up new imaginary ills! With too much on our plates already, we are forced to concern ourselves with additional spurious delusions which, if they were to be taken seriously, would diminish our capacity to adapt to change, and ultimately to survive the upcoming onslaught.
A typical passenger transport plane (medium haul) burns 30 tons of fuel and thus unloads 30 tons of ice and 20 tons of gaseous oxides (mostly carbon dioxide) into the stratosphere every trip it makes.
The troposphere contains about 80% of the atmosphere and is the part of the atmosphere in which we live, and make weather observations. In this layer, average temperatures decrease with height. This is known as adiabatic cooling, i.e. a change in temperature caused by a decrease in pressure. Even so, it is still more prone to vertical mixing by convective and turbulent transfer, than other parts of the atmosphere. These vertical motions and the abundance of water vapour make it the home of all important weather phenomena. It is turbulent and unstable because it is at its warmest at its base. The troposphere’s thermal profile is largely the result of the heating of the Earth’s surface by incoming solar radiation. Heat is then transferred up through the troposphere by a combination of convective and turbulent transfer.
This is in direct contrast with the stratosphere, where warming is the result of the direct absorption of solar radiation. It is at its coldest at its base, and is stable and non-turbulent. If you have ever observed (or been in) a house fire, and looked up at the ceiling of a room with a fire in it, there you can see that the behaviour of the air is similar: the hottest part of the fire is against the ceiling, and the layers of air beneath (at decreasing temperatures) are stratified and somewhat mysteriously stable.
The troposphere is around 16 km high at the equator, with the temperature at the tropopause around –80 °C. At the poles, the troposphere reaches a height of around 8 km, with the temperature of the tropopause around –40 °C in summer and –60 °C in winter.
Annual passenger jet aircraft fuel consumption is estimated to be 300 million tons. That may seem a lot, but it’s a CUBE with sides a hundred yards long. in actual fact.
The weight of the atmosphere is 5.25 petatonnes.
One can see (using a quick calculation) that, as a proportion of the weight of the atmosphere, the burnt fuel comprises FIVE MILLIONTHS OF A PER CENT. It would take 200,000 years to half-fill the atmosphere with aircraft exhaust emissions at their present rate!
Now, the water, the gaseous oxides and sulphates may have a hardly appreciable effect on Global Warming (they are only 3.5% of anthropogenic combustion), but are as NOTHING when compared with the Earth’s volcanoes.
There are 1,500 active volcanoes on land and maybe TEN THOUSAND active volcanoes under the sea. Beneath are a few links:
The term “active” means “constantly emitting steam, gases, magma, and ash”. It is hard to quantify the total emitted by the land volcanoes, but let us assume they average a million tons of each per year. That will give us fifteen hundred million tons of steam, fifteen hundred million tons of gases, fifteen hundred million tons of magma, fifteen hundred million tons of ash.
“Hey”, you might say, “aren’t you making free with all those hundred millions of tons?” – and I would answer you thus: “A million tons of rock makes a cone 243 feet high. So I’m suggesting that the annual volcanic production of rock is equivalent to fifteen hundred of these rock cones. See what I mean?”
To put that estimate into perspective, the largest known eruption, Tambora, put 200 million tons of sulfur dioxide into the atmosphere in a single event!
Getting back to the point, it can be reasonably argued that contrails are at least FIFTEEN TIMES LESS IMPORTANT THAN VOLCANOES when it comes to having an effect on our atmosphere, whether warming it or cooling it…
So forget ALL of this bullfish about contrails/chemtrails. Yadda barium, yadda aluminum, yadda cooling, yadda dimming, yadda morgellons, yadda toxins……..You can bet your boots that anyone who advocates this idea is an ignorant dupe, with NO IDEA of the magnitude of the Earth and the events that truly moderate its climate.
Written by JazzRoc
November 10, 2008 at 1:00 am
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