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GROUND LEVEL – EARLIEST PHOTO – WAVE VORTICES – PROPELLER VORTICES – ‘SHOCK’ CLOUDS
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This aircraft is on approach in humid stormy conditions. Its wheels are down and its flaps are set at fifteen degrees. A temporary “cloud” is visible over the flapped part of the wing indicating the strong pressure reduction caused by the extended flaps, and flowing back from the outermost flap edges is a pair of very strong vortices (“ectoplasm”!) thrown into sharp relief by the clouds of water droplets condensed by the severe reduction in air pressure at their centres. The vortices rise and fall with pressure fluctuations, generated in part by ambient conditions, and also changes in aircraft attitude. Some distance behind the aircraft its wave vortex is remarkably apparent. This is the “mixing engine” that causes contrails to fill supersaturated stratospheric layers.
Why are vortices so stable? Because they spin. Their rotational energy is high, and they can only be brought to a stop by viscous friction between them and the surrounding atmosphere.
The pillar of a tornado is a natural vortex, and is also typically so energetic that water vapor condenses into a “mist” (of water droplets) in the core of its vortex from what one might call the “centrifugal pressure drop” – but one shouldn’t – because the real reason for this condensation is the drop in temperature which occurs as a consequence of this drop in pressure.
THE EARLIEST PHOTO
OF PERSISTENT CONTRAILS (a.k.a. “chemtrails”)
The left-hand side of the picture was probably taken towards the end of August 1940, when the first high-altitude gun battles were being fought between the RAF and the Luftwaffe. The participants were Hawker Hurricanes and Me 109s, which were both fitted with superchargers which enabled them to manoever and fight at around 27,000 ft. The photo is taken over St. Paul’s Cathedral, London. Apologies for the poor state of the picture, but who knows how many times this picture has been copied…
There is a barrack-room lawyer who has claimed the above picture to be fake. If so, then so is this:
Seeing that I am still being spammed by this guy and others, I’m forced to point out the obvious…
These are NOT identical pictures, they ARE of St. Paul’s Cathedral, they are obviously fighter battles, and just as obviously NOT anti-aircraft fire, they AREN’T obscured by much bomb smoke because fighter battles tend to PRECEDE major bombing, as the bombers wouldn’t be able to survive fighter attacks. The defending fighters would have had to be “cleared” first, which is what happened.
As they AREN’T identical, (and yet one can see elements common to both) these pictures VALIDATE EACH OTHER. (I’m not sure that a NASA site would use “made up” material. Why would they need to, in this instance?) They are, of course, NOT the only pictures available for validation either…
The right-hand side of the first picture is a more contemporary copy of St. Paul’s for comparison.
And here is another picture of St. Paul’s, taken somewhat later in the war, where Allied bombers are circling to assemble prior to setting out to attack Germany. In this case one may discern further familiar contrail features such as ice agglomeration, falling, and shear.
WAVE VORTEX (1)
This was originally titled “Cessna Downwash” but a better name for it is “aircraft and its wave vortex climbing through clouds”. The powerful vortex generated by the pressure difference (inflight) between the topside and underside of aircraft wings is responsible for the lift which keeps the aircraft aloft and also the drag which demands the power input from its engines. The wave vortex of a jumbo jet has been known to cause light aircraft to crash five minutes AFTER the jumbo has passed. It causes “distrails” (negative contrails – ice crystal trail agglomeration and descent) and much furore in the “chemtrail community” where it is thought to be some new and misunderstood aspect of “spraying”. In reality it is the “mixing engine” which causes contrails to fill stratospheric layers with ice, and as a consequence, turn blue skies to white skies. (The”chemtrail” community immediately starts coughing!)
Let me quote you one of our “heroes” who calls himself skywitness because he believes himself to be a lone watcher of the skies on the side of the brave and true. (But on the other hand he blocked me immediately from his channel and then pursued me avidly through other channels’ comment boxes, claiming his contrail videos were irrefutable proof of “chemtrail spraying”). He asks:
“I would like to know if anyone has seen a rip in the clouds as it was taking place. Was it something that flew through the cloud, or did it just start to appear out of nowhere? I have seen more than a few of these type of rips or trails, but I have never seen how it takes place…”
All I’m asking is that anyone that knows him and reads this, could you get back to him and put him out of his misery?
WAVE VORTEX (2)
The USAF transport plane has just released its “decoy” flares into what would have been its invisible wave vortex. Chemtrailers in particular have to realise that this twin vortex extends backwards (and keeps rotating!) for at least fifty miles behind the airplane, and also, whether it is visible or not, it is always there.
These flares, by-the-way, are making the only definite “chemtrails” that can be proven to exist. Wherever this smoke falls, it will provide a few plants with a little extra fertilizer…
….Aaaaah. And of course I completely forgot these:
These have also been fervently denied by the relentlessly science-blind as “figments of a feverish imagination”.
(Also known as a “Mach Cones”):
Wow! (Conspicuous consumption or what?)
Written by JazzRoc
November 21, 2008 at 1:00 am
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ATLANTIC OCEAN – MID-EUROPE – THE CROW INSTABILITY – MORE ABOUT VORTICES – THE 9-11 VORTEX – THE “THIRD” TRAIL – SUPERSATURATION – “GAPS” – FUEL VENTS – AIRBUS 340 RTO BRAKE TEST
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A monochrome view of the North Atlantic Ocean by AtlanticSat shows Greenland, Iceland, the British Isles, and part of Norway. Prominent in the photo is a north-south ridge of high pressure, with cold dry air to the west, and warmer wetter air to the east. Aircraft approaching or leaving this ridge have struck permanent contrail conditions on its west side. The trails are at even intervals which suggest there are only TWO great-circle routes involved (London-New York and London LAX) with regular flights from each. The stratosphere (where the trails are) is obviously moving north-to-south.
The trails peter out approaching or leaving the British Isles, where the wetter conditons don’t obtain (for a change).
Chemtrailers must ask themselves why the pilots’ aim was so poor…
Here we are centered roughly over Hamburg; Copenhagen is right center top and the Baltic Sea further to the right. We are looking at a “triangle” of air travel activity between Kiel (center top), Berlin (bottom right) and the Rhineland (bottom left).
You can see evidence that the stratosphere is sliding along at possibly 100kph from the northwest – maybe!
THE CROW INSTABILITY
I originally thought these were local control surface vortices, but I have been better advised since, by Jay Reynolds. Thanks, Jay!
MORE ABOUT VORTICES
The Crow instability is a vortex pair instability, and typically goes through several stages:
– A pair of counter rotating vortices act upon each other to amplify small sinusoidal distortions in their vortex shapes (Normally created by some initial disturbance in the system).
– The waves develop into either symmetric or anti-symmetric modes, depending on the nature of the initial disturbance.
– These distortions grow, both through interaction from one vortex on another, and also ‘Self Induction’ of a vortex with itself. This leads to an exponential growth in the vortex wave amplitude.
– The vortex amplitudes reach a critical value and reconnect, forming a chain of vortex rings.
Initially the vortex pair falls rapidly downward. Perturbations of the vortices from the ambient atmosphere grow in a sinusoidal mutual inductance instability (the Crow instability). Eventually the vortices touch, reconnect and form vortex rings which oscillate, interact with themselves and the atmospheric turbulence and stratification, and finally dissolve. During their lifetime the rings continue to drop, giving rise to the periodic series of puffs often seen in contrail evolution.
These are spin-stabilized and follow the deflected air and take a while to spin to a stop. Ice is precipitated out of the -40 deg C water vapor in the vortex vacua. Altogether an intriguing visual phenomenon!
http://www.cerfacs.fr/cfd/wake_vortex_26.php is a useful reference…
And this low-quality video reveals…
And this high-quality video shows how far our understanding has progressed…
# A vortex (plural: vortices) is a spinning, often turbulent, flow of fluid. Any spiral motion with closed streamlines is vortex flow. …
Vortices display some special properties:
* The fluid pressure in a vortex is lowest in the center (where the speed is greatest) and rises progressively with distance from the center. This is in accordance with Bernoulli’s Principle. The core of a vortex in air is sometimes visible because of a plume of water vapor caused by condensation in the low pressure of the core. The spout of a tornado is a classic and frightening example of the visible core of a vortex. A dust devil is also the core of a vortex, made visible by the dust drawn upwards by the turbulent flow of air from ground level into the low pressure core.
* The core of every vortex can be considered to contain a vortex line, and every particle in the vortex can be considered to be circulating around the vortex line. Vortex lines can start and end at the boundary of the fluid or form closed loops. They cannot start or end in the fluid. (See Helmholtz’s theorems.) Vortices readily deflect and attach themselves to a solid surface. For example, a vortex usually forms ahead of the propeller disk or jet engine of a slow-moving airplane. One end of the vortex line is attached to the propeller disk or jet engine, but when the airplane is taxiing the other end of the vortex line readily attaches itself to the ground rather than end in midair. The vortex can suck water and small stones into the core and then into the propeller disk or jet engine.
* Two or more vortices that are approximately parallel and circulating in the same direction will merge to form a single vortex. The circulation of the merged vortex will equal the sum of the circulations of the constituent vortices. For example, a sheet of small vortices flows from the trailing edge of the wing or propeller of an airplane when the wing is developing lift or the propeller is developing thrust. In less than one wing chord downstream of the trailing edge of the wing these small vortices merge to form a single vortex. If viewed from the tail of the airplane, looking forward in the direction of flight, there is one wingtip vortex trailing from the left-hand wing and circulating clockwise, and another wingtip vortex trailing from the right-hand wing and circulating anti-clockwise. The result is a region of downwash behind the wing, between the pair of wingtip vortices. These two wingtip vortices do not merge because they are circulating in opposite directions.
* Vortices contain a lot of energy in the circular motion of the fluid. In an ideal fluid this energy can never be dissipated and the vortex would persist forever. However, real fluids exhibit viscosity and this dissipates energy very slowly from the core of the vortex. (See Rankine vortex). It is only through dissipation of a vortex due to viscosity that a vortex line can end in the fluid, rather than at the boundary of the fluid. For example, the wingtip vortices from an airplane dissipate slowly and linger in the atmosphere long after the airplane has passed. This is a hazard to other aircraft and is known as wake turbulence.
Cause and effects
A wing generates aerodynamic lift by creating a region of lower air pressure above it. Fluids are forced to flow from high to low pressure and the air below the wing tends to migrate toward the top of the wing via the wingtips. The air does not escape around the leading or trailing edge of the wing due to airspeed, but it can flow around the tip. Consequently, air flows from below the wing and out around the tip to the top of the wing in a circular fashion. This leakage will raise the pressure on top of the wing and reduce the lift that the wing can generate. It also produces an emergent flow pattern with low pressure in the center surrounded by fast-moving air with curved streamlines. Wingtip vortices only affect the portion of the wing closest to the tip. Thus, the longer the wing, the smaller the affected fraction of it will be. As well, the shorter the chord of the wing, the less opportunity air will have to form vortices. This means that for an aircraft to be most efficient, it should have a very high aspect ratio. This is evident in the design of gliders. It is also evident in long-range airliners, where fuel efficiency is of critical importance. However, increasing the wingspan reduces the maneuverability of the aircraft, which is why combat and aerobatic planes usually feature short, stubby wings despite the efficiency losses.
Another method of reducing fuel consumption is the use of winglets, as seen on some modern airliners such as the Airbus A340. Winglets work by forcing the vortex to move to the very tip of the wing and allowing the entire span to produce lift, thereby effectively increasing the aspect ratio of the wing. Winglets also change the pattern of vorticity in the core of the vortex pattern, spreading it out and reducing the kinetic energy in the circular air flow, which reduces the amount of fuel expended to perform work by the wing upon the spinning air. Winglets can yield worthwhile economy improvements on long-distance flights.
Visibility of vortices due to water condensation and freezing
The cores of the vortices are sometimes visible because water present in them condenses from gas (vapor) to liquid, and sometimes even freezes, forming ice particles. The phase of water (i.e. whether it assumes the form of a solid, liquid, or gas) is determined by its temperature and pressure. For example, in the case of liquid-gas transition, at each pressure there is a special “transition temperature” Tc such that if the sample temperature is even a little above Tc, the sample will be a gas, but if the sample temperature is even a little below Tc, the sample will be a liquid; see phase transition.
For example, at the standard atmospheric pressure, Tc is 100 °C = 212 °F. The transition temperature Tc decreases with decreasing pressure (which explains why water boils at lower temperatures at higher altitudes and at higher temperatures in a pressure cooker; see here for more information). In the case of water vapor in air, the Tc corresponding to the partial pressure of water vapor is called the dew point. (The solid-liquid transition also happens around a specific transition temperature called the melting point. For most substances, the melting point also decreases with decreasing pressure, although water ice in particular—in its Ih form, which is the most familiar one—is a prominent exception to this rule.)
Vortex cores are regions of low pressure. As a vortex core begins to form, the water in the air (in the region that is about to become the core) is in vapor phase, which means that the local temperature is above the local dew point. After the vortex core forms, the pressure inside it has decreased from the ambient value, and so the local dew point (Tc) has dropped from the ambient value. Thus, in and of itself, a drop in pressure would tend to keep water in vapor form: the initial dew point was already below the ambient air temperature, and the formation of the vortex has made the local dew point even lower.
However, as the vortex core forms, its pressure (and so its dew point) is not the only property that is dropping: the vortex-core temperature is dropping also, and in fact it can drop by much more than the dew point does, as we now explain.
To a first approximation, the formation of vortex cores is thermodynamically an adiabatic process, i.e. one with no exchange of heat. In such a process, the drop in pressure is accompanied by a drop in temperature, according to the equation
Here Ti and pi are the absolute temperature and pressure at the beginning of the process (here equal to the ambient air temperature and pressure), Tf and pf are the absolute temperature and pressure in the vortex core (which is the end result of the process), and the constant γ is about 7/5 = 1.4 for air.
Thus, even though the local dew point inside the vortex cores is even lower than in the ambient air, the water vapor may nevertheless condense—if the formation of the vortex brings the local temperature below the new local dew point. Let us verify that this can indeed happen under realistic conditions. For a typical transport aircraft landing at an airport, these conditions are as follows: we may take Ti and pi to have values corresponding to the so-called standard conditions, i.e. pi = 1 atm = 1013.25 mb = 101\,325 Pa and Ti = 293.15 K (which is 20 °C = 68 °F).
We will take the relative humidity to be a comfortable 35% (dew point of 4.1 °C = 39.4 °F). This corresponds to a partial pressure of water vapor of 820 Pa = 8.2 mb.
We will assume that in a vortex core, the pressure (pf) drops to about 80% of the ambient pressure, i.e. to about 80 000 Pa.
Let us first determine the temperature in the vortex core. It is given by the equation above as
Next, we determine the dew point in the vortex core. The partial pressure of water in the vortex core drops in proportion to the drop in the total pressure (i.e. by the same percentage), to about 650 Pa = 6.5 mb. According to a dew point calculator at this site (alternatively one may use the Antoine equation to obtain an approximate value), that partial pressure results in the local dew point of about 0.86 °C; in other words, the new local dew point is about equal to the new local temperature.
Therefore, the case we have been considering is a marginal case; if the relative humidity of the ambient air were even a bit higher (with the total pressure and temperature remaining as above), then the local dew point inside the vortices would rise, while the local temperature would remain the same as what we have just found. Thus the local temperature would now be lower than the local dew point, and so the water vapor inside the vortices would indeed condense.
Under right conditions, the local temperature in vortex cores may drop below the local freezing point, in which case ice particles will form inside the vortex cores.
We have just seen that the water-vapor condensation mechanism in wingtip vortices is driven by local changes in air pressure and temperature. This is to be contrasted to what happens in another well-known case of water condensation related to airplanes: the contrails from airplane engine exhausts. In the case of contrails, the local air pressure and temperature do not change significantly; what matters instead is that the exhaust contains both water vapor (which increases the local water-vapor concentration and so its partial pressure, resulting in elevated dew point and freezing point) as well as aerosols (which provide nucleation centers for the condensation and freezing).
Condensation of water vapor in wing tip vortices is most common on aircraft flying at high angles of attack, such as fighter aircraft in high g maneuvers, or airliners taking off and landing on humid days.
A vortex can be seen in the spiraling motion of air or liquid around a center of rotation. Circular current of water of conflicting tides form vortex shapes.
Turbulent flow makes many vortices. A good example of a vortex is the atmospheric phenomenon of a whirlwind or a tornado or dust devil. This whirling air mass mostly takes the form of a helix, column, or spiral. Tornadoes develop from severe thunderstorms, usually spawned from squall lines and supercell thunderstorms, though they sometimes happen as a result of a hurricane.
In atmospheric physics, a mesovortex is on the scale of a few miles (smaller than a hurricane but larger than a tornado). On a much smaller scale, a vortex is usually formed as water goes down a drain, as in a sink or a toilet. This occurs in water as the revolving mass forms a whirlpool. This whirlpool is caused by water flowing out of a small opening in the bottom of a basin or reservoir. This swirling flow structure within a region of fluid flow opens downward from the water surface.
* In the hydrodynamic interpretation of the behavior of electromagnetic fields, the acceleration of electric fluid in a particular direction creates a positive vortex of magnetic fluid. This in turn creates around itself a corresponding negative vortex of electric fluid.
* Smoke ring : A ring of smoke which persists for a surprisingly long time, illustrating the slow rate at which viscosity dissipates the energy of a vortex.
* Lift-induced drag of a wing on an aircraft.
* The primary cause of drag in the sail of a sloop.
* Whirlpool: a swirling body of water produced by ocean tides or by a hole underneath the vortex where the water would drain out, such as a bathtub. A large, powerful whirlpool is known as a maelstrom. In popular imagination, but only rarely in reality, they can have the dangerous effect of destroying boats. Examples are Scylla and Charybdis of classical mythology in the Straits of Messina, Italy; the Naruto whirlpools of Nankaido, Japan; the Maelstrom, Lofoten, Norway.
* Tornado : a violent windstorm characterized by a twisting, funnel-shaped cloud. A less violent version of a tornado, over water, is called a waterspout.
* Hurricane : a much larger, swirling body of clouds produced by evaporating warm ocean water and influenced by the Earth’s rotation. Similar, but far greater, vortices are also seen on other planets, such as the permanent Great Red Spot on Jupiter and the intermittent Great Dark Spot on Neptune.
* Polar vortex : a persistent, large-scale cyclone centered near the Earth’s poles, in the middle and upper troposphere and the stratosphere.
* Sunspot : dark region on the Sun’s surface (photosphere) marked by a lower temperature than its surroundings, and intense magnetic activity.
* The accretion disk of a black hole or other massive gravitational source.
* Spiral galaxy : a type of galaxy in the Hubble sequence which is characterized by a thin, rotating disk. Earth’s galaxy, the Milky Way, is of this type.
# VORTEX – The Verification of the Origins of Rotation in Tornadoes Experiment or VORTEX, field projects study tornadoes. VORTEX1 was the first time scientists completely researched the entire evolution of a tornado enabling a greater understanding of the processes involved with tornadogenesis. …
THE 9-11 VORTEX
As explained previously, vortices that come into contact with each reconfigure each other, regenerating intermediate “rings”, and ALL vortices will “stick” to a plane surface – like the ground (tornado), or the face of a building (World Trade Center Tower 2).
The Boeing 767, weighing around 180,000 kilograms and traveling at 260 meters/second, was pulling up in about a 2G banking turn before it struck the tower, so the energy it was putting into its (invisible) WAVE VORTEX was twice the normal, it occurred to me, so might not there be EVIDENCE of its existence in the smoke and dust after the collision?
Evidence there is, in embarrassing plenty. Embarrassing for “no-planers”, anyway, if they were to be well-informed and curious enough to CONTINUE TO WATCH after the collision took place. An oxymoron, I think.
Check back to confirm this if you like…
So now “no-planers” would HAVE to claim that the video artists that “falsified” these images were experts in aerodynamics as well.
To which the answer is OCCAM…
THE “THIRD” TRAIL…
In this case the fifth… is the trail left by the APU (Auxiliary Power Unit) which is a normal (but small) gas turbine/electrical generator set. As with the main engines, it burns kerosine to form carbon dioxide and steam. As with the main engines, it leaves a trail. But where’s it coming from?
“the whole plane is spraying”
When stratospheric air is very clean and stable it may contain MORE water vapour than it does when it is described as having 100% Relative Humidity. The slightest disturbance to it will cause ice crystals to precipitate out of it. It cannot go into super-saturation if there are ANY nucleative materials of any sort in this air.
Here is just such a case, which occurs on occasion in the sub-tropical stratosphere. The trail forms by “burst condensation” into super-cooled droplets which are microscopic initially and can refract sunlight by interference. Over a small space of time these droplets grow progressively as water vapor deposits more supercooled water into them. As they progressively increase their size they run through a progression of light frequencies which they interfere with. This is NOT a refraction effect.
Chemtrailers claim the colors to be indicative of “foreign materials” which is quite the reverse of the truth; only pure water will do this, and only pure air will have become supersaturated in the first place.
The fact that in supersaturated conditions, large aircraft can place thousands of tons of ice into the stratosphere is covered by the paper “Contrails to Cirrus” mentioned in the INTRODUCTION page.
“Gaps” are claimed by chemtrailers as “evidence that planes are spraying”. Such gaps will of course appear in any persistent contrail where the stratospheric air RH falls below 100%. Generally, of course, the humidity tails off gradually, and the transition of trail-to-no-trail is quite indistinct.
In THIS case, the “transition” is a hard and sharp right angle. Too sharp, in fact, for a whirling twin-vortex contrail… Close inspection of the “sky” each side of the “gap” shows it to be comprised of a chemtrailer’s vertical “airbrush strokes”! Naughty!
Here we have an aircraft actually spraying something; it’s fuel. If some in-flight emergency occurs and the plane must make a quick landing, it must first lose weight, for it cannot land at its take-off weight. Some of its fuel must GO.
Chemtrailers are quick to claim this shot as “spraying evidence”.
Written by JazzRoc
November 20, 2008 at 1:00 am
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6 PORKIES – AEROSOLS – THE ATMOSPHERE – THE WMO – ATMOSNAPS
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“PORK PIE” = “LIE” – Cockney rhyming slang.
“Obviously your alleged credentials are fraud” – has your short-term memory passed away? ONE.
“A true person of Science would step forward and lay all questions to rest” – ditto, and I have. Check my comments here. Check http://www.contrailscience.com. Check http://www.myspace.com/jazzroc TWO.
“You do nothing” – I COULD start pasting again… THREE.
“It is safe to assume that people’s claims must have basis” – assuming is the only action you do. Why not educate yourself in science? FOUR.
“I’d like nothing more than for someone to prove nothing is going on” – FIVE.
“You are by far not only a fraud but a coward as well” – GIANT PORKY NUMBER SIX.
What a great porky this one is!
The non-scientific word-association goes aerosol – hair spray – sprayers (truly inspirational!)
But never a thought to CHECKING UP what the REAL MEANING (scientific meaning) of aerosol ACTUALLY IS:
Aerosol – from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Aerosol – contamination in northeastern India and Bangladesh.
Technically, an aerosol is a suspension of fine solid particles or liquid droplets in a gas. Examples are smoke, oceanic haze, air pollution, smog and CS gas. In general conversation, aerosol usually refers to an aerosol spray can or the output of such a can.
The word aerosol derives from the fact that matter “floating” in air is a suspension (a mixture in which solid or liquid or combined solid-liquid particles are suspended in a fluid). To differentiate suspensions from true solutions, the term sol evolved – originally meant to cover dispersions of tiny (sub-microscopic) particles in a liquid.
With studies of dispersions in air, the term aerosol evolved and now embraces both liquid droplets, solid particles, and combinations of these.
Concentrated aerosols from substances such as silica, asbestos, and diesel particulate matter are sometimes found in the workplace and have been shown to result in a number of diseases including silicosis and black lung. Respirators can protect workers from harmful aerosol exposure. In the United States the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health certifies respirators through the National Personal Protective Technology Laboratory to ensure that they protect workers and the public from harmful airborne contaminants.
Effect on climate
Aerosols over the Amazon each September for four burning seasons (2005 through 2008). The aerosol scale (yellow to dark reddish-brown) indicates the relative amount of particles that absorb sunlight. Anthropogenic aerosols, particularly sulfate aerosols from fossil fuel combustion, exert a cooling influence on the climate which partly counteracts the warming induced by greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide. This effect is accounted for in many climate models. Recent research, as yet unconfirmed, suggests that aerosol diffusion of light may have increased the carbon sink in the earth’s ecosystem.
Recent studies of the Sahel drought and major increases since 1967 in rainfall over the Northern Territory, Kimberley, Pilbara and around the Nullarbor Plain have led some scientists to conclude that the aerosol haze over South and East Asia has been steadily shifting tropical rainfall in both hemispheres southward.
The latest studies of severe rainfall declines over southern Australia since 1997 have led climatologists there to consider the possibility that these Asian aerosols have shifted not only tropical but also mid-latitude systems southward.
Oxides of nitrogen (NOx) in the atmosphere are a form of pollution which can give rise to smog and act as a greenhouse gas. Their persistence in the atmosphere is affected by aerosol droplets of water.
In 1964 long chain fatty acids, either naturally produced from marine organisms dispersed into the atmosphere by wave action or man-made, were found to coat these droplets. In 2006 there was a study of the effect of the LCFA on the persistence of NOx, but the long term implications, although thought to be significant, have yet to be determined.
So AEROSOL means this:
A REALTIME study of aerosol presence (made by satellite) all over the world may be obtained here, and here is a representative image, from which you can see the satellite passes 90 minutes apart.
There is a video made over a fortnight showing the main aerosol action occurs travelling westward on a line passing through BANGLADESH and the SAHARA DESERT. It is MAN-MADE – the consequence of many hundreds of millions of humans living close to the poverty line… slash-and-burn, cooking fires, forest fires, vegetable farming decomposition, volcanoes…
No aircraft contrails are found anywhere NEAR this line…
So much for the “chemtrailers” and their “the NWO is poisoning the whole world” theory…
What is it?
It’s a mixture of invisible element and compound gases; nitrogen, oxygen, carbon dioxide, water vapour, argon, neon, and trace amounts of other inert gaseous elements. This mixture keeps us in a healthy condition, and imbalance in this mixture can poison and/or kill us. We would all prefer to be at Standard Temperature and Pressure, which is 20 deg C (70 deg F) and 1000 millibars (14.7 lb/in2).
Standard Temperature and Pressure occur at Sea Level, but the atmosphere may reach up to 200Km or more (the INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION orbits at 400Km and you can bet there’s very little atmosphere, if any, at that height!) The following diagram is a graph of atmospheric pressure against height over sea level (altitude). The space station height is three graph-heights higher than the graph below.
There is an asymptotic fall-off of pressure with altitude which is easy to see. This, when combined with the concomitant drop in temperature lends weight to the understanding that the stratosphere cannot bear much loading of contrail ice before it saturates, and cannot absorb more.
The region just immediately higher than the tropopause (at approximately 26,000 feet to 39,000 feet) is the region where passenger aircraft fly, for reasons of safety and economy.
The pressure above the tropopause is one-fifth that at sea level, but at the high cruising speed of 550 miles per hour, there is sufficient dynamic lift for safe and stable flight.
This region is the CAUSE of the “chemtrail” controversy, for it is COLD, STABLE, and INCAPABLE of absorbing large amounts of combustion steam as water vapor. As a consequence this steam cools to microscopically-fine ice crystals, which form – TRAILS behind the aircraft.
And the following is a diagram of air dewpoint and temperature plotted against height above sea level (altitude).
If you look at the dewpoint line (on left) you can see it move continually leftward with increase in height above sea level. This powerfully indicates that with increasing height, the atmosphere is increasingly incapable of absorbing the exhaust water formed by burning kerosine in gas turbines.
Looking at the temperature (lapse rate) line on the right, you can see that it moves leftward with increase in height above sea level, until it reaches the tropopause, where it starts to edge to the right again. You can see that after the tropopause the atmosphere gets WARMER with increasing height. The concave shapes to both dewpoint and temperature here indicate some energy input – either solar ‘focusing’ from tropospheric clouds, or jet stream mixing energy – it is hard to guess.
Another couple of points. This chart was obviously made on a cold day; the sea level temperature is just sub-zero. However, two hundred metres higher, and the air temperature is five degrees higher. Bumps and dips in these two lines show where you may infer the presence of clouds.
There is much more to learn about our atmosphere than I have given here, but I can heartily recommend this link to the UK’s Met Office.
After that you can answer these questions (can’t you!).
As further confirmation I strongly recommend AtOptics
And a word to the “wise”. There is a lot of scuttlebutt going around which says “Global Warming is just a myth started by our duplicitous governments as a means of extracting additional taxes”. Well I remember a time when it was thought we were headed directly for a new ice age.
(This was just a journalistic ruse. The next Ice Age will occur approximately 16,000 years from the present.)
Since then, it is true that government funds are available for the investigation of GW to the detriment of other research, and that horrible thing “political correctness” has raised its ugly head above the horizon, but the facts are too numerous to mention that the climate is warming, but also that other facts remain unmentioned, which leaves a question of politics…
See “Global Warming is a Myth” under G in this blog.
THE WORLD METEOROLOGICAL ORGANIZATION
|One of the major purposes of the World Meteorological Organization (WMO), as laid down in its Convention, is “To facilitate worldwide cooperation in the establishment of networks of stations for the making of meteorological observations as well as hydrological and other geophysical observations related to meteorology, and to promote the establishment and maintenance of centres charged with the provision of meteorological and related services”.
Accordingly, WMO Members operate, in a coordinated manner, complex networks in space, the atmosphere, on land and over oceans. In 2007, Members decided to work towards enhanced integration of both the WMO Global Observing System (GOS) and WMO co-sponsored observing systems such as the Global Ocean Observing System (GOOS), Global Terrestrial Observing System (GTOS) and Global Climate Observing System (GCOS). This concept is called the WMO Integrated Global Observing Systems (WIGOS).
Currently, more than 10000 manned and automatic surface weather stations, 1000 upper-air stations, over 7000 ships, more than 100 moored and 1000 drifting buoys, hundreds of weather radars and over 3000 specially equipped commercial aircraft measure key parameters of the atmosphere, land and ocean surface every day. The space-based component of the WMO Observing System contains operational polar-orbiting and geostationary satellites and also R&D environmental satellites complementing ground-based global observations. These activities are coordinated within the Global Observing System (GOS) of the World Weather Watch (WWW) of WMO. Several WMO Programmes sponsor or participate in the operation of several global observing systems. Other global observing systems, e.g. the global hydrological networks (WHYCOS), function principally on a national or regional level.
Observation programmes such as the Global Climate Observing System (GCOS) and the Global Ocean Observing System (GOOS) will continue to play a major role in improving the collection of required data for the development of climate forecasts and climate change detection. WMO’s Global Atmosphere Watch (GAW) provides data for scientific assessments and for early warnings of changes in the chemical composition and related physical characteristics of the atmosphere that may have adverse affects upon our environment. Through its Instruments and Methods of Observation Programme (IMOP), WMO ensures that meteorological instruments, including manual and automatic ground-based stations and space-based observing systems, are accurate and provide standardized data.
WMO monitoring and observing systems will be a core component of the Global Earth Observation System of Systems (GEOSS), aimed at developing a comprehensive, coordinated and sustained Earth observation system of systems to understand and address global environmental and economic challenges.
This is, of course, a silly word coined by me to introduce these pictures of Earth’s atmosphere which have been taken by some of the NASA Space Shuttle astronauts from the International Space Station.
I find them most stimulating and interesting. We spend all our time with a “flat-earther” viewpoint, looking up at clouds and failing to see them for what they truly are.
Written by JazzRoc
November 19, 2008 at 1:00 am
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BAMBOOZLED – BALONEY DETECTION KIT – BOENOID – BARD OF ELY BLOG RESPONSE – A BLACK HOLE – BLUE LIGHT SCATTERING – CHEMTRAILERS WE LOVE YOU (NOT!)
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One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It is simply too painful to acknowledge — even to ourselves — that we’ve been so credulous. (So the old bamboozles tend to persist as the new bamboozles rise.) – Carl Sagan
BALONEY DETECTION KIT
As a society it falls upon us as individuals to live our lives using the best judgement possible.
For each of us it wasn’t always that way: as children we instinctively believed what our parents told us, which was a powerful defense mechanism that generally kept us out of harm’s way.
As we grow up this gullibility has to be exchanged for a healthy cynicism and sound judgment which will afford some protection from the intentional deception of sociopaths.
This is a comment posted at Uncinus’s excellent site Contrailscience late Sept 2009. It is rare to find such professionalism and terse accuracy in “chemtrailer” writing, and here is an experienced and technically competent writer presenting an opposite point of view. No surprise, there:
For what it is worth, I am a Boeing engineer with 20 years of experience in the aerospace industry.
* There are no special tanks anywhere on our airplanes to hold chemicals to be sprayed out.
* There are no spray nozzles on the airplanes either, unless you count the emergency fuel dump nozzles on the widebody jets.
* This can be readily ascertained by simply looking through an airplane before the interior wall panels are installed. Here is a list of all the tanks which are on a jetliner:
** Fuel, potable water, waste water, engine fire suppressant (Halon + other stuff), cargo fire suppressant (just Halon), hydraulic reservoirs. On the new airplanes you will also see tank-like devices which generate nitrogen to inert the fuel tanks.
* Further, there is no room for such stuff to get installed. You would have to carry TONS of liquid to make spray trails independent of the exhaust condensation, and the only liquid we carry tons of is Jet-A fuel.
* In Everett Washington, the Seattle flight museum has a restoration center where you can go see dismantled airplanes being readied for display in the museum. The work is done almost entirely by volunteers. I assume other flight museums have similar workshops. If you can find one where you live, go to the restoration center and see the planes up close. There’s no where to hide a sprayer system where it wouldn’t be seen by maintenance crews.
* The Boeing final assembly plant is open for tours by the public, and VIPs from all over the world can get close-up tours. The airplanes are built in a staggered sequence, so that two airplanes side-by-side are usually being made for two different airlines.
* The majority of Boeing’s production is sold overseas. In fact, the company is the nation’s largest exporter.
* Thus, if a domestic airplane was modified for “chemtrail production” in the factory, it would be as easy as pie for a foreign VIP to walk over and say, “What are these fancy tanks and sprayers on the American plane which aren’t on my airplane?”
* If any airplane WAS modified for chemtrail to add chemtrail sprayers, the thousands of Boeing employees would have to know. I don’t work in Fuels, and I can identify every tank and tube in the wing area.
* If thousands of Boeing employees knew, then so would thousands of supplier employees who go through our factories, thousands of airlines employees who go through our factories, and all the FAA and NTSB and DOT people as well. Also, our airplanes and factories are inspected by the Aviation Authorities of foreign countries (like EASA from Europe) and they would also need to be in on the conspiracy.
* There would simply be too many people involved to prevent this from leaking out. If the chem trail sprayers were being added in the factory, the secret would be out.
* So what if the chemtrail sprayers were being added by an aftermarket shop?
* You’re back to the same problem. It takes hundreds of people to design, build, and install a major modification on a jetliner, and the mod shops are just as open as Boeing is. You wouldn’t be able to keep the secret.
* Further, most airlines have their planes maintained by outside suppliers, who would have to be in on the conspiracy. Those who do their own maintenance do the work in open bays that again would make it easy to view the modification.
* And you have the same problem that you need to get thousands of maintenance people, suppliers, and certification authorities in on the conspiracy. It would have leaked by now. All it takes is one guy with a cell phone camera, and the world would know.
* So what if they somehow managed to do all this stuff anyway? Now you have to realize that somebody, somewhere, has to be pumping TONS of chemtrail chemicals into these mysterious hidden tanks on the airplanes. You would need a fill valve, and a distribution system, and special trucks carrying the chemicals disguised as fuel trucks. That would take thousands more people to be in on the conspiracy.
* One giveaway would be two fuel trucks pulling up to the same jetliner – one with the fuel and one with the chemicals. Remember, we’re talking about tons of liquid here.
* It just doesn’t work – you would need independent chemical fill ports, and somebody, somewhere, would notice.
* And while we’re talking about it, remember that every jetliner pilot has to check the weight of the plane and calculate a talk off runway length and other factors. The charts are the same for every jetliner of a given type, but if there really were chemtrail sprayers, then the charts for those airplanes would have to be different to account for the tons of chemicals that might be on the airplane.
* So, I really don’t think there is any way to hide the sprayers on jetliners. Too many people would have to know, and it would be too easy to detect by passerby.
* So, what if the chemtrail chemicals are in the jet fuel? This wouldn’t require ANY visible modifications to the airplanes, and far fewer people would have to know about the conspiracy.
* This would be harder to refute, BUT, you would have to discard the “on and off” contrails as being caused by pilots turning sprayers on and off. All the fuel on the plane came from the same fuel trucks and the same fuel tanks, so the supposed chemtrail would have to be continuous from takeoff until landing. I think that would have been noticed by now.
* So to my mind, that pretty much eliminates the possibility of using jetliners to create chemtrails.
* Which means you have to be using military jets, and thousands of them, flying unnoticed back and forth on normal commercial routes. So now you have to have all the air traffic controllers in on the conspiracy as well.
* And the planes will again need special tanks for the chemicals, and special fill ports, and special sprayers, and special tanker trucks filling the chemical tanks on the planes, special non-military suppliers delivering the stuff, and you’re right back to the same issue of needing to keep thousands of people from talking.
You would need a special delivery system on the airplanes.
You would need a special fill system.
You would need independent tanker trucks.
You would need a separate supply chain.
You would need thousands and thousands of people to hold their tongues, and never have even ONE person leave any incriminating evidence in a safe deposit box to be discovered after their deaths.
It ain’t happening.
BARD OF ELY BLOG – A RESPONSE
“Although chemtrails are conspicuous in our skies and thousands of sites exist about the menace the mainstream media and the authorities are very quiet about the matter or ignore and deny their existence. This of course, adds fuel to the conspiracy theories!
But it’s not just the media and the officials that are silent because there is a similar wall of silence from successful singer-songwriters and rock stars as well as celebrities in general! What does this mean? is there some memo that gets circulated warning that if you mention chemtrails your contract is terminated? Are people too scared to mention such stuff in public? What is going on?
I say we need people who can get the media exposure to come forward on this matter! We need stars to talk about chemtrails on live TV and radio!
I believe we need protest songs about chemtrails! If anyone knows of any please let me know!”
There is no evidence that I have seen that trails in the sky are anything except the water and carbon dioxide (and trace amounts of NOX) left by the passage of gas turbines in the stratosphere.
Now water is drinkable, carbon dioxide is respired by plants to make sugar, and the NOX combines with water to form dilute nitric acid which forms nitrates on contact with soil, helping plants to grow.
The majority of trails in the skies of Earth cross the US continent, so it is they that will bear the brunt of this “contamination”. So be it. Their plants will grow a little better, is all. Although the daily burning of a million tons of kerosine seems massive to you, in relation to the mass of the Earth’s atmosphere it is NOTHING.
ALL of Man’s conflagrations, his best efforts annually, will raise the sea level by 0.0000000000001 per cent, for instance (approximately).
Now, as to whether STRANGE COMPOUNDS are surreptitiously being introduced into burning gas turbines, in order to distribute them as an aerosol throughout the Earth’s atmosphere, why on Earth would anyone do that? (It would HAVE to be THROUGH the turbine because spray devices external to the motor would have to be plainly visible).
It just doesn’t stand up to any logical consideration.
Your ignorance has lead to your paranoia.
I blame Western Culture as a whole for failing to instil a minimum but requisite standard of scientific knowledge for the technological conditions under which we live.
Desist this crap!
“I totally disagree! Please do some research Tony! I have been researching this for a long time! The planet is being geoengineered under Caps & Trade schemes. there are many things being done including weather modification which I have seen in the UK and here and is all known about if you dig deep! Try californiaskywatch.com for starters.”
Seeding clouds for rain with silver iodide crystals (or powdered tea!) is completely harmless. It IS NOT “weather modification”!
I have checked through the website above and NONE of the things mentioned bears ANY relationship to NATURAL VULCANISM, let alone the masses of the land, atmosphere and oceans.
The amount of ocean: imagine a cubic mile of ocean. One mile square, up to the height of Vilaflor from sea level. Got it?
Then imagine 500,000,000 of them.
Counting them at the rate of one per second will take you SIXTEEN years.
The ocean weighs 114,398,298,100,000,000 tons. One hundred and fourteen thousand trillion tons. That’s a HUGE dilution factor…
“you can watch trails that last and spread and no trails or old style contrails at the same time, you can watch planes with no trail start a trail and then stop. you can have a day or period of a day with old style normal clouds and blue sky followed by loads of chemtrails and a sky turned to a mass of fake clouds and haze”.
Contrails are a stratospheric phenomenon (not in the troposphere, where your weather is). The stratosphere is generally stable, layered (like an onion skin) with layers of water/air solutions at various temperatures and humidities. When they are moving in different directions to each other (and falling slightly) they form CIRRUS clouds. When they fall without any relative motion, they form CIRROSTRATUS clouds.
Sometimes the layers are supersaturated and only require flying through (say by glider wings) to condense out water and form clouds. They understandably may get somewhat upset when a clumping great turbofan whistles through them. Sometimes (when the layer is SATURATED) the upset is permanent, but in general the stratosphere is less than saturated, and you see a temporary contrail which trails the plane for say a mile or so, before being re-absorbed. On days when the layers are ALL saturated, the contrails will hang there ALL DAY.
Contrails are WATER, and you are not being sensible.
“you can have a day or period of a day with old style normal clouds and blue sky”.
What you are talking about here is the TROPOSPHERE, which is the air between the ground and the stratosphere.
This is the atmosphere as you experience it at ground level. It is THE BULK of the total atmosphere, half of which is to be found beneath twelve thousand feet.
The STRATOSPHERE is to be found at DOUBLE that height and above, to a height of sixty thousand feet. It is relatively rarefied, very cold (-80 deg F, colder than Mars) and TRANSPARENT.
It is the atmosphere beneath twelve thousand feet which is responsible for the blue in the sky (by scattering of white light – the blue “scatters” whilst the red continues straight on).
On bad days in the latter part of WWII, the stratosphere was supersaturated when USAF Flying fortresses set out to precision-bomb German targets in their thousands. The Germans could see them coming from three hundred miles away, without radar, and could adjust their fighter attacks with time to spare. Bad days, with hundreds of bombers littering the path back to Blighty.
Do you suppose those bombing raids were chemical attacks?
“listen Tony I don’t see why you feel the need to insult me!”
No insult intended. I DESCRIBED you.
“i didn’t start this argument and if you have nothing f—ing better to do with your time f— off”.
It’s not an argument. It’s a discussion. I consider it important to correct the foolishness of a friend.
“I know what I see and have the opinions of thousands of others who see likewise”.
You don’t “know” what you see. That’s the point. You’re blogging others down a foolish path. That I feel compelled to prevent. The opinions of other deluded people don’t count for much, do they? Nor should you help to delude them, should you? It would be harmful, even evil, wouldn’t it?
“i certainly don’t need to be insulted by someone I thought was a friend”.
Then don’t FEEL insulted. You’re not the only person that has been foolish in the world are you?
I have given you an accurate account of what it was you thought you had seen. You have been given the benefit of my scientific experience.
Would it have been kind to remain silent?
You should should consider yourself assisted, helped, loved, by this friend, and as a consequence GIVE THIS STUPIDITY UP!
A BLACK HOLE
BLUE LIGHT SCATTERING
It seems to be normal for chemtrailers not to understand why our skies are blue.
Where were these people in junior school, or in science class? Outside?
White light is a MIXTURE of visible light frequencies. The Sun (which is the main source of all light by which we see, is a very hot body which radiates photons of many frequencies, some of which are so energetic that they would harm us if they could pass through our atmosphere – but they cannot.
What does pass through is mainly a tight group of frequencies, spanning just over an octave, which our eyes can see.
Our eyes have evolved to make use of these frequencies – naturally.
Wikipedia: Rayleigh scattering
Rayleigh scattering causes the blue hue of the daytime sky and the reddening of the sun at sunset
It is more dramatic after sunset. This picture was taken about one hour after sunset at 500m altitude, looking at the horizon where the sun had set, showing the more intense scattering of blue light by the atmosphere relative to red light.
Rayleigh scattering (named after the English physicist Lord Rayleigh) is the elastic scattering of light or other electromagnetic radiation by particles much smaller than the wavelength of the light. It can occur when light travels in transparent solids and liquids, but is most prominently seen in gases.
Rayleigh scattering of sunlight in clear atmosphere is the main reason why the sky is blue: Rayleigh and cloud-mediated scattering contribute to diffuse light (direct light being sunrays).
For scattering by particles similar to or larger than a wavelength, see Mie theory or discrete dipole approximation (they apply to the Rayleigh regime as well).
Small size parameter approximation
The size of a scattering particle is parametrized by the ratio x of its characteristic dimension r and wavelength lambda:
Rayleigh scattering can be defined as scattering in the small size parameter regime x < 1. Scattering from larger spherical particles is explained by the Mie theory for an arbitrary size parameter x. The Mie theory reduces to the Rayleigh approximation.
The amount of Rayleigh scattering that occurs for a beam of light is dependent upon the size of the particles and the wavelength of the light (lambda). Specifically, the intensity of the scattered light varies as the sixth power of the particle size and varies inversely with the fourth power of the wavelength.
The intensity I of light scattered by a single small particle from a beam of unpolarized light of wavelength lambda and intensity I0 is given by:
where R is the distance to the particle, lambda is the scattering angle, n is the refractive index of the particle, and d is the diameter of the particle.
The angular distribution of Rayleigh scattering, governed by the (1 + cos^2*lambda) term, is symmetric about the plane normal to the incident direction of the light (i.e. about lambda = 90°), and so the forward scatter equals the backwards scatter. Integrating over the sphere surrounding the particle gives the Rayleigh scattering cross section.
The Rayleigh scattering coefficient for a group of scattering particles is the number of particles per unit volume N times the cross-section. As with all wave effects, for incoherent scattering the scattered powers add arithmetically, while for coherent scattering, such as if the particles are very near each other, the fields add arithmetically and the sum must be squared to obtain the total scattered power.
Rayleigh scattering from molecules
A 5 mW green laser pointer is visible at night due to Rayleigh scattering and airborne dust. Rayleigh scattering from molecules is also possible. An individual molecule does not have a well-defined refractive index and diameter. Instead, a molecule has a polarizability a, which describes how much the electrical charges on the molecule will move in an electric field. In this case, the Rayleigh scattering intensity for a single particle is given by
The amount of Rayleigh scattering from a single particle can also be expressed as a cross section s. For example, the major constituent of the atmosphere, nitrogen, has a Rayleigh cross section of 5.1×10^-31 m^2 at a wavelength of 532 nm (green light). This means that at atmospheric pressure, about a fraction 10^-5 of light will be scattered for every meter of travel.
The strong wavelength dependence of the scattering (~lambda-4) means that blue light is scattered much more readily than red light. In the atmosphere, this results in blue wavelengths being scattered to a greater extent than longer (red) wavelengths, and so one sees blue light coming from all regions of the sky. Direct radiation (by definition) is coming directly from the Sun. Rayleigh scattering is a good approximation to the manner in which light scattering occurs within various media for which scattering particles have a small size parameter.
Reason for the blue color of the sky
Rayleigh scattering is responsible for the blue color of the sky during the day. Rayleigh scattering is inversely proportional to the fourth power of wavelength, which means that the shorter wavelength of blue light will scatter more than the longer wavelengths of green and red light. This gives the sky a blue appearance.
Conversely, looking toward the sun, the colors that were not scattered away – the longer wavelengths such as red and yellow light – are visible. When the sun is near the horizon, the volume of air through which sunlight must pass is significantly greater than when the sun is high in the sky. Accordingly, the gradient from a red-yellow sun to the blue sky is considerably wider at sunrise and sunset.
Rayleigh scattering primarily occurs through light’s interaction with air molecules. Some of the scattering can also be from aerosols of sulfate particles. For years following large Plinian eruptions, the blue cast of the sky is notably brightened due to the persistent sulfate load of the stratospheric eruptive gases. Another source of scattering is from microscopic density fluctuations, resulting from the random motion of the air molecules. A region of higher or lower density has a slightly different refractive index than the surrounding medium, and therefore it acts like a short-lived particle that can scatter light.
Rayleigh scattering at Hyperphysics
Maarten Sneep and Wim Ubachs, Direct measurement of the Rayleigh scattering cross section in various gases. Journal of Quantitative Spectroscopy and Radiative Transfer, 92, 293 (2005).
C.F. Bohren, D. Huffman, Absorption and scattering of light by small particles, John Wiley, New York 1983. Contains a good description of the asymptotic behavior of Mie theory for small size parameter (Rayleigh approximation).
Ditchburn, R.W. (1963). Light (2nd ed.). London: Blackie & Sons. pp. 582–585.
Chakraborti, Sayan (September 2007). “Verification of the Rayleigh scattering cross section”. American Journal of Physics 75 (9): 824-826. doi:10.1119/1.2752825.
Ahrens, C. Donald (1994). Meteorology Today: an introduction to weather, climate, and the environment (5th ed.). St. Paul MN: West Publishing Company. pp. 88–89.
And so when we see aircraft from the ground (this is a Syrian Air Boeing 747) we cannot expect to see its markings. They have been “scattered” away. You will only see its markings by taking pictures of it from up close.
CHEMTRAILERS WE LOVE YOU
It’s that moment when you have engaged your sophisticated and educated brain in a discussion with a chemtrailer and he suddenly starts talking about vertical “chemtrails” and challenges you to to justify those… You point out that only some fighter aircraft can travel vertically, and this guy says no, it was a “tanker aircraft” and while you are wondering what the hell, you realize that he doesn’t understand perspective at all, and he’s really talking about trails coming towards you and passing overhead you. Which means, of course, that you’re wasting your time with exotic explanations involving crossing shuttle routes.
Or when someone sends you a picture of a broken trail, and you can see that it had been a continuous trail before some crook had photoshopped it. So you tell him it’s a fraudulent picture, and so he sends you a color-processed copy so damned effective that you can see each individual photoshop spraying pass, thinking he has proved his point. I drew lines and arrows pointing exactly where it was occurring, and he still couldn’t see it.
Enough from me.
“I want information, not a video of some guy’s grass saying “chemtard” over and over. ”
But, that is what this video IS! You are complaining because I didn’t give YOU what YOU want in this video?! Are you f*****g kidding me?! I didn’t force you to come here and make the assumption that I’m supposed to “teach” you something! I make it PERFECTLY clear in my videos that I’m not here to educate any lazy and ignorant chemtard! I tried that in the past… It wasn’t worth my time. Learn for yourself!
I even make it PERFECTLY clear in the “info” area that I don’t have time to be wasting on f*****g ignorant chemtards! Where do you see ANYTHING about me being an information booth?! Who said it’s MY f*****g job to educate YOU?!?
I must say he seems reasonable to me. Stars, save me…
Written by JazzRoc
November 16, 2008 at 1:00 am
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BARIUM – BIGGER FOLLOW-UP
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Name, Symbol, Number: barium, Ba, 56
Chemical series: alkaline earth metals
Group, Period, Block: 2, 6, s
Appearance: silvery white
Standard atomic weight 137.327(7) ug·mol-1
Electron configuration [Xe] 6s2
Electrons per shell 2, 8, 18, 18, 8, 2
Density 3.51 g/cm3
Liquid density at m.p.: 3.338 g/cm3
Melting point: 1000K (727°C, 1341°F)
Boiling point: 2170K (1897°C, 3447°F)
Heat of fusion: 7.12 kJ/mol-1
Heat of vaporization: 140.3 kJ/mol
Heat capacity: (25°C) 28.07 J/mol/K
Oxidation states: 2 (strongly basic oxide)
Magnetic ordering: paramagnetic
Electrical resistivity: (20°C) 332 nO/m
Thermal conductivity: (300K) 18.4 W/m/K
Thermal expansion (25°C) 20.6 µm/m/K
Mohs hardness: 1.25
CAS registry number: 7440-39-3
Barium is a chemical element, it has the symbol Ba, and atomic number 56. Barium is a soft silvery metallic alkaline earth metal and is never found in nature in its pure form due to its reactivity with air. Its oxide is historically known as baryta but it reacts with water and carbon dioxide and is not found as a mineral. The most common naturally occurring minerals are the very insoluble barium sulfate, BaSO4 (barite), and barium carbonate, BaCO3 (witherite). Benitoite is a rare gem containing barium.
It is a metallic element that is chemically similar to calcium but more reactive. This metal oxidizes very easily when exposed to air and is highly reactive with water or alcohol, producing hydrogen gas. Burning in air or oxygen produces not just barium oxide (BaO) but also the peroxide. Simple compounds of this heavy element are notable for their high specific gravity. This is true of the most common barium-bearing mineral, its sulfate barite BaSO4, also called ‘heavy spar’ due to the high density (4.5 g/cm³).
It has some medical and many industrial uses:
* Barium compounds, and especially barite (BaSO4), are extremely important to the petroleum industry. Barite is used in drilling mud, a weighting agent in drilling new oil wells.
* Barium sulfate is used as a radiocontrast agent for X-ray imaging of the digestive system (“barium meals” and “barium enemas”).
* Barium carbonate is a useful rat poison and can also be used in making bricks. Unlike the sulfate, the carbonate dissolves in stomach acid, allowing it to be poisonous.
* An alloy with nickel is used in spark plug wire.
* Barium oxide is used in a coating for the electrodes of fluorescent lamps, which facilitates the release of electrons.
* The metal is a “getter” in vacuum tubes, to remove the last traces of oxygen.
* Barium carbonate is used in glassmaking. Being a heavy element, barium increases the refractive index and luster of the glass.
* Barite is used extensively in rubber production.
* Barium nitrate and chlorate give green colors in fireworks.
* Impure barium sulfide phosphoresces after exposure to the light.
* Lithopone, a pigment that contains barium sulfate and zinc sulfide, is a permanent white that has good covering power, and does not darken in when exposed to sulfides.
* Barium peroxide can be used as a catalyst to start an aluminothermic reaction when welding rail tracks together. It can also be used in green tracer ammunition.
* Barium titanate was proposed in 2007 to be used in next generation battery technology for electric cars.
* Barium Fluoride is used in infrared applications.
* Barium is a key element in YBCO superconductors.
Barium (Greek barys, meaning “heavy”) was first identified in 1774 by Carl Scheele and extracted in 1808 by Sir Humphry Davy in England. The oxide was at first called barote, by Guyton de Morveau, which was changed by Antoine Lavoisier to baryta, from which “barium” was derived to describe the metal.
Because barium quickly becomes oxidized in air, it is difficult to obtain this metal in its pure form. It is primarily found in and extracted from the mineral barite which is crystallized barium sulfate. Barium is commercially produced through the electrolysis of molten barium chloride (BaCl2)
The most important compounds are barium peroxide, barium chloride, sulfate, carbonate, nitrate, and chlorate.
Naturally occurring barium is a mix of seven stable isotopes. There are twenty-two isotopes known, but most of these are highly radioactive and have half-lives in the several millisecond to several minute range. The only notable exceptions are 133Ba which has a half-life of 10.51 years, and 137Ba (2.55 minutes).
All water or acid soluble barium compounds are extremely poisonous. At low doses, barium acts as a muscle stimulant, while higher doses affect the nervous system, causing cardiac irregularities, tremors, weakness, anxiety, dyspnea and paralysis. This may be due to its ability to block potassium ion channels which are critical to the proper function of the nervous system.
Barium sulfate can be taken orally because it is highly insoluble in water, and is eliminated completely from the digestive tract. Unlike other heavy metals, barium does not bioaccumulate. However, inhaled dust containing barium compounds can accumulate in the lungs, causing a benign condition called baritosis.
Oxidation occurs very easily and, to remain pure, barium should be kept under a petroleum-based fluid (such as kerosene) or other suitable oxygen-free liquids that exclude air.
Barium acetate could lead to death in high doses. Marie Robards poisoned her father with the substance in Texas in 1993. She was tried and convicted in 1996.
BIGGER FOLLOW-UP (TO “SODA POP” LEADER)
ADDRESSED TO YOUTUBE “CHEMTRAIL” VIDEO SITES
Jet engines MAKE soda pop. Decane is the chemical name for aviation kerosine, or JP-8*. The combustion formula goes:
2*C10H22 + 31*O2 -> 20*CO2 + 11*H2O, or
DECANE + OXYGEN -> CARBON DIOXIDE + WATER
And as MOST OF US know:
CARBON DIOXIDE + WATER = FIZZYPOP
*JP-8 is modern aviation kerosine. It is safer, with a higher flashpoint that the JP-4 it has superseded. It has anti-corrosion and anti-gelling additives, but does NOT contain Ethylene Dibromide (which was once used to dissolve the lead oxide produced by tetra-ethyl lead anti-knock gasoline).
There could be THREE OR MORE transparent layers of air of DIFFERENT HUMIDITIES, only ONE of which condenses (at -40 deg) an ICE CRYSTAL TRAIL, within the short-haul civil aircraft band between 30 and 35 thousand feet. Layer thicknesses of differing humidity are frequently only hundreds of feet thick, and aircraft are spaced ten miles apart on the same level for a particular route, and conflicting routes are typically 2000ft above or below each other.
So you’ll see SOME planes laying ice crystal trails while others don’t – it depends which transparent stratospheric layer the plane is flying through. These layers themselves aren’t perfectly flat – they roughly conform to the ground profile AND any rising CUMULUS clouds. So even if the plane flies straight and level, it may be the layer it is in slopes gently down or up, and an ice crystal trail either appears or disappears. You have to remember these layers, though different, are ALWAYS themselves transparent.
So you can’t SEE them. You can only see which layer is really humid by a plane throwing a “vapor trail” in it. Typically stratospheric layers begin ABOVE the TROPOPAUSE, which is where our ground level weather STOPS. The layers vary in thickness, more densely packed close to the TROPOPAUSE, thinning out to nothing much above twelve miles up. It’s very smooth and calm up there (although it may have a high speed with respect to the ground).
Unlike what it is DOWN HERE. This rising panic ensues from an under-educated public. Had you all been properly taught about the weather as schoolchildren, this would be a NON-TOPIC.
Respiratory ailments may well be on the increase, but so is the planting of unusual crops which emit unusual pollens, auto fumes are still on the increase, and urban photochemical smogs are also on the increase. It is known (by some) that the COMBINATION of pollens, auto fumes, and urban smog can cause severe auto-immune failure, asthma, and death in the young, weak, or elderly.
If there are MORE “vapor trails” in the sky than there used to be, then the answer is that there is MORE AVIATION TRAFFIC and MORE WATER IN THE ATMOSPHERE. It isn’t very wise to look upwards and blame “soda pop” for combinatory effects which are happening down here, solely because you can’t understand how the atmosphere works. It certainly doesn’t help you to find a REAL solution to the REAL problem.
Video posts like this are WRONG, and risk scenarios as HARMFUL as a TSUNAMI.
Would YOU call a tsunami EVIL? No you wouldn’t, because a tsunami lacks INTENT.
Would I call this video post EVIL?
Written by JazzRoc
November 15, 2008 at 1:00 am
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91177info – A PAGE FROM YOUTUBE – ALTN – ALUMINUM/BARIUM – ANDERS – DISCOVERY?
Don’t forget my other pages, links and comments are one click away at the top right of the page…
The chemtrail petition has the necessary signatures to get a response from the government. 600 so far but if anyone would like a personal email detailing what our government is doing or is aware of please see the top link.
the report states that the BEST DISPERSAL HEIGHT IS 80,000 FEET. Only U2s and X15s fly up there, and all they can carry is cameras and electronics. That altitude is TWICE AS HIGH as the CEILINGS of modern aircraft and is IMPOSSIBLE TO REACH WITH ANY TYPE OF TANKER. That’s why they conclude that SEEDING OCEAN CLOUDS and FEEDING IRON TO OCEAN CENTRES are the only routes immediately viable. They haven’t done those either, unfortunately. It makes RUBBISH out of your video post, doesn’t it?
Yes they do seed clouds. There are private companies that do as such and videos of companies cloud seeding on youtube. I am very happy with my video as it has added to the pool of information which thousands of researches are finding out and adding to themselves. Some information may be speculative, some may be far fetched but I believe I was the first to find these documents of the UK government actually suggesting adding chemicals to aviation fuel and making it available on youtube.
You are proposing something, on the other hand, which you REALLY know nothing about. It therefore seems “reasonable” to you to behave the way you do. Any scientist or engineer who reads what you write will shake their head. Where were you when brains were handed out? You can’t even find the relevant research materials, which are freely available on the net. You also appear unable to read. If DEFRA claims it would be difficult to do, then they haven’t done it. You don’t appear to notice that.
Yes I know I haven’t been able to give as much attention to the subject of chemtrails and find the necessary documents. I was distracted by the swine flu last year and the so called deadly pandemic we were supposed to be in. Which turned out to be a false alarm and a way for our governments to syphon off tax payers money. They lied it was a false alarm. This vid is 10 months old so maybe I should return to investigate chemtrails. After the petition at 10 Downing St which ends in March.
Truly infantile. “Look, a plane is flying overhead and there are some rocks on the ground shaped like the letter C. It’s a clue! Proof for chemtrails!”. You’ll never be taken seriously by anyone with critical faculties who can weigh evidence. You’ll just continue to talk amongst your buddies with the same psychological disposition about your escapist fantasies and waste the time of your other friends, pestering us with the latest “proof” for your delusions. Yes, I actually read the document.
You’re the one who is delusional. In fact, looking through your comments for the last six months – You’re a total fruitcake. You are also a liar and I hate liars. Now which document did you think you read? hmm?
@91177info, Stephen Salter made a submission to this committee – this:
You’ll find it on my channel and also at jazzroc. wordpress. com on my “Jet Spray” page because it’s a brilliant and cheap idea. Yes, I actually read the document. many times, many places. All this stuff is just the consideration of options, many of which are dead ducks. You lack the nous to make any sensible discrimination whatsoever. Scientific understanding, if you ever found it, might help you…
There is no government legalisation and private companies can virtually spray what they want up there as it been reported on MSM. So really you don’t have a clue what is being sprayed. Of course you would say it is just water vapour. You started your comment thread very defensive/protective and rude. You think all is well and no damage is being caused to us or our earth, fine. That’s your instinct. Mine says something is not right and there are millions of other people who feel the same.
@91177info, I actually C&P’d someone else’s comment which exactly suited this. I’m not talking about INSTINCT. I’m talking about EXPERIENCE. I KNOW there is nothing in the trails and I can PROVE there is nothing in the trails. You can neither KNOW or PROVE anything. Aviation fuel is made up to a recipe by the admixture of conditioners to a locally-made petroleum distillate, so it will be subtly different wherever the plane refuels. But there’s only one type of jetfuel and it’s for ALL planes.
beachcomber2008, Obviously you didn’t read the entire 163 pages…I can tell by what you are saying. Pull it up again and READ it this time…..then come back and debate with us.
Isn’t it quite the coincidence that Mars has quite an abundance of sulphate. Perhaps those tubes we have seen on Mars are them harvesting minerals. Great video.
Chemtrails also (amongst other chemicals) contain barium. The EPA states dose factors under 2 parts per billion is safe from harm. Rainwater collected after chemspraying has been found to have up to 6 parts per billion. Jet fuel sometimes referred to as JP-5 or JP-8 is regulated by the Department of Commerce. Good luck getting a hold of them. When no1 gives us an answer or we’re completely ignored on a subject we can only believe its something we’d not take well. Then again I’d ignore any scrambled answer they’d “come up with” at this point. Two good reasons. Vitamin D kills the flu virus. And the spray contains chemicals to help the viral envelope fuse with lung cells for easier infection.
Well done for blocking that muppet. Good info here.
Contrails, Climate Changing Clouds of Combustion spewed by 8mile high Oil burning “Smogliners” whose exhaust products acts as the nucleus for the formation of ice crystals that are Contrails ,that persist spread to form Contrail-Cirrus a days heat trapping ( as clouds tend to do) thermal blanket of exhaust cloud. This is Geo-engineering. Contrails. Climate Changing Clouds of Combustion. FairyChemTales a Big Oil spray story to cloud the Environmental Disaster of Vast Oil Burning.
Chemtrails day & night in UK the sun rarely shows and when it does they are back to cover it. EVIL GOVERNMENTS.
Help heal the planet, google ‘orgonite’. It’s a simple compound anyone can create in their backyard with fairly inexpensive, widely-available materials which balances ambient energy by turning the negative energy into positive energy, with many easily-confirmed effects. Orgonite does this continuously, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, without electricity.
Truely infantile. “Look, a plane is flying overhead and there are some rocks on the ground shaped like the letter C. It’s a clue! Proof for chemtrails!”. You’ll never be taken seriously by anyone with critical faculties who can weigh evidence. You’ll just continue to talk amongst your buddies with the same psychological disposition about your escapist fantasies and waste the time of your other friends, pestering us with the latest “proof” for your delusions. Yes, I actually read the document.
gtb393 ??? Joined April 24 2007 Channel Views 0 No Favourites No Uploads Comments 0 Channel Comments 0 Now I really do not need to ask what drew you to my vid do I?? All your appearance has done is reaffirm to the thousands of subscribers that:
A: There really is something going on.
B: You’re a SHILL.
C: You’re EVIL
D: You are not welcome here
E: You’re now on my BLOCKED list
now we can go to every official government agencies and present the document and ask for explanation…
Great find, mate. thanks for share it with the rest of us here. Jazzroc – where are you now, you old fool and lier?
BocScar is either working for the CDC or Baxter. He has several accounts jazzroc and stars15k, he has been paid to do this. He/She is using an avatar which is used by the CDC and is listed in the pdf documents that Jane Burgermeister sent me. See my website link on my profile for more info. There are other shills which have been paid to do this. But BocScar is classic and very persistent. You just have to read through the comments to see what I mean. Love to those that want it. Jason x
hey the weather up here has been weird so far, the whole month of june has been rain, i think its a new record here in this area lol.
I have a few shills as well youtube is crawling with them trying to confuse chemtrails with contrails LOL There is no argument we’re not stupid I was looking for stuff today and googled reports in the UK AND FOUND ONE AT GLOBAL RESEARCH UK
Try this site all the evidence is here in photos/maps and graphs. asp bnl gov/ Just replace the space with an . I will get back to this but the swindle flu is the main headlines lol
I never heard of jazzroc and stars15 is a 40 yr old woman. You’ll need to work harder to pass the detectives exam.
Now why on earth would you come back to this video and reply to a new comment thread which wasn’t in reply to one of yours? I have been waiting for this test for 2 weeks and actually I have just passed my detective exam because you fell for my trap. BocScar you are a shill, your icon is one used in Baxter International labs which can be seen in Jane Burgermeister’s file charges. Goodbye.
Well, dickhead, since you are from england, you HAVE to love moslems. they have taken over your bloody country. Yes, I like guns, that is one of our freedoms here in the US. And I do like women. That would obviously offend a faggot like you. blow it out your windpipe, abdul.
Actually, what you say you like doing to women tells me it is actually YOU that has faggot tendencies! Another moron that uses the same username throughout the web and his email address. You paranoid racist anal loving moron.
I am very sorry to use the terminology that graverobber35 has used. They are not words I use and I only used them in context to what he was saying to me.
Sorry , I lost my tin foil hat in the flood.
You lost a lot more than that. Your nothing more than a muslim hating gun loving womanising thug. This user said that: “mohammed was a child molester” on hardyk1’s channel. By the way always make sure the barrel of your gun isn’t blocked, not being psychic or anything 😉
Did you even bother to read the conclusion? “It is clear from the assessment of geo-engineering options presented here that there are large uncertainties regarding the effectiveness, impacts, technical feasibility, cost and risks of all the schemes considered. As a consequence of these uncertainties, we feel that it is premature at this stage to draw firm conclusions on the feasibility of implementing the schemes discussed”. They don’t even know if geoengineering is possible!
Bother? I’m well bothered. They are getting private companies to do this. They are? testing it out now! Trying different chemicals and mixtures. With out consulting or warning the public. Why? Because we are expendable and our lives and heath doesn’t matter. It really makes me angry. I mean really fucking angry.
Did you read the report’s conclusion? They say that they don’t know if geoengineering is even possible. If they admit in the report that geoengineering might not even be possible, how can you use the report as proof that “chemtrails are real and I believe are happening now with out public consultation.”
Because they are lying, thieving, murdering bastards. They killed over a million Iraqi civilians on this plagiarised dossier: Downing Street’s dossier against Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction is accused of plagiarism. Channel Four News has learnt that the bulk of an intelligence dossier heralded by Colin Powell at the UN yesterday, was copied from three different articles – one written by a graduate student”. BocScar, Do you really think they will tell us the truth after the above quotes?
-Because they are lying, thieving, murdering bastards.- I’m talking of the DE & CC document referenced in the video. On the one hand you accept this document when it speaks of stratospheric aerosols, but on the other hand you reject it when it states that geoengineering might not even be possible. So is the DE&CC document true or a lie?
What do you think I think?
I’m not sure what you think. I’m not sure. You seem to agree with the parts of the DECC document that fit your preconceived notions, and disagree with the parts that don’t. You use this government document to “prove” they are conducting geoengineering, but ignore the part where it says that geoengineering might not be possible. I’m asking for clarification.
Going back a couple of months, people like Stars15k, o0Nighthawk0o, Shilltastic and possibly you were stating there was no evidence of such programs and chemtrails were just water vapour. Nothing was and could be sprayed in the skies. This is a government document which states such programs and is inviting private research companies to share their research and knowledge. These programs are happening right now. Stop moving the goal posts. Chemtrails are real.
-These programs are happening right now.- So according to you the government is publicly inviting research companies and publishing feasibility studies on the Internet while at the same time secretly spraying the sky in full daylight, hoping nobody will notice. The DECC document offers possible quick fix solutions to mitigate global warming and then it cautions that these solutions are dangerous and might not even be feasible.
Private companies are spraying yes. So at last you acknowledge chemtrails. Thankyou.
What are private companies spraying in the air?
You tell me. You’re paid to do this “argumentum ad hominem”
You are the one that claims private companies are spraying. I assume you know what you are talking about. So please tell me, what private companies are spraying? I really want to know.
Hold on let me look in the yellow pages.
So, I take it you don’t know. You claim private companies are conducting secret spraying operations but can’t even name one of them. How can you conclude that private companies are involved? On what are you basing your statement that private companies are involved?
We live in a Corporate world, they’re all Private companies. Even you are a corporation.
What’s your point?
Just looking for human qualities.. U failed.
This isn’t a philosophical discussion about human nature. The guy made a concrete statement that private companies are spraying the air. If he knows these companies are private then he must also know their names.
If you could just stop beating your bishop for a moment and look at the reply I have sent you.
Stating that the scientific community is researching solutions to our environmental mess is not acknowledging “chemtrails”. The word “chemtrail” implies covert programs to dumb down the population or block out the sun by deliberately using chemicals. I do not acknowledge “chemtrails” and I’ve tried to point out that neither does the DECC document.
Chemical Contrails then. Spraying or releasing chemicals via aerosol or the exhaust of aircraft fuel. They are doing exactly what it says on the tin. It is interesting you say “dumb down”?? That is very telling BocScar. I’ve been talking about Global Dimming.
I’ll ask you again. What are private companies spraying in the air?
Page 26 of the pdf states “if other parties, countries and institutions wished to develop a shared approach, DECC would be interested in sharing expertise, and in helping to develop an initial detailed scoping study”. Google these: ukca ac uk – GLOMAP – SLIMCAT/TOMCAT – CiTTyCAT – EU Aerosol IP – AEROCOM emissions/validation – EUSAAR data
They are looking to partner with the private sector to “develop an initial scoping study”. initial… study… How do you conclude from that statement that private companies are currently engaged in a global dimming campaign? These are either feasibility studies, environmental studies and one of them only tries to set research protocols for data base sharing… but never mind… Which one of those companies is currently engaged in a covert global dimming campaign?
WOW BocScar how do “YOU” know about these sites and give an answer so quickly? Can you do me a favour here? Please swear on your families life, the generations of your family which are now in the spirit world and ALL the genetic strain of your family in the future that YOU, are not involved in any way with chemtrails, chemical contrails, the military, and the government. And you are just some regular youtube user. So I BocScar swear (You fill in the rest here)
You told me about the sites… so I looked at them. These people can loosely be characterized as atmospheric researchers. I swear I am not in the service of any government or any secret society to misinform anyone about anything nor am I involved directly or indirectly in perpetrating illegal covert chemical campaigns against the atmosphere or the population. LOL Look… you make statements like “private companies are spraying”, “chemtrails are real”. I’m asking you to explain yourself because I don’t see it. Every time one asks for some kind of evidence you guys point to publicly available government documents produced by the same government you claim is secretly conducting the spraying. You claim the DECC document proves “chemtrails” but ignore its conclusion that geoengineering is not advisable and may not even be feasible.
Thankyou for swearing BocScar. All I know is what I see and what I have researched. I am an artist by trade and I paint landscapes. I love to draw clouds. I am always looking at clouds ever since I was 4 years old and my mum pointed out a face in the cloud. From then on I have always looked up at clouds and I have made faces out of what I see. Back in February during a landscape photography assignment I became aware of the chemtrails, white lines. That is when the spraying started in my area. I am a very aware person, I follow the seasons and live with nature. I love sunsets and follow the moon. I know where it will be rising with a given tree in my area. I count the swallows that come and nest here and count the new brood that leaves. I have a photographic memory and have over 200 art and photography books and know which picture is in which books. I don’t like change. BocScar, I know what contrails are. The white lines now in the sky are not normal, they really aren’t right.
Without a doubt, increased contrail formation has an environmental impact. I just challenge the notion that it is a covert government operation to block the sun or kill people. Contrails are a consequence of air travel, just like smog is a consequence of car usage. I’m just a regular guy and I have never seen any evidence of weather modification other than cloud seeding. I don’t consider atmospheric research to be geoengineering nor do I consider persistent contrails to be “chemtrails”. I’ve read the DECC document and it’s a preliminary assessment paper that concludes there are large uncertainties regarding the effectiveness, impacts, technical feasibility, cost and risks of geoengineering.
BocScar. Well said. You must be aware these sad simple believers and their voodoo video Priests of Piffle havent the faintest idea of the Planet they are on or how it works. But they do share a genuine concern for what they see outside above them. And so they and you should. A Jet exhaust made 6-8mile high layer of reflective day heat trapping cloud, Contrail-Cirrus, is a Climate Changing Cloud of Combustion. A Global unintended Geo-engineering Environmental Disaster.
Just google “Downing St dossier plagiarised”. They lied, they have committed murder. Something is NOT right here. Me thinks they will do it again.
me too, Bocscar, if hes not being paid by this industry, is totally mind wiped on all of these issues about weather modification, save your energy, Bocscar is insincere and just soapboxs for attention, good or bad. He knows it’s real he spends everyday trying to talk “WITNESS'” down from what thy’ve seen. But he has no argument at all, he just flames through disjointed arguments, a waste of time dewd
He was convincing, but easy to put right. Thanks for that info.
-if hes not being paid by this industry, is totally mind wiped – Once again the you demonstrate your ability to come to conclusions without facts. The same logic leads you to believe “they” are secretly modifying the weather in full daylight and nobody but astute YouTube videographers are clever enough to notice.
Chemtrails are obvious to children now. They have to say something now. You rather them disclose it’s part of bio weapons and psych warfare Haarp EMF weapons? Climate control is a cover story. Now run out and push this disinfo to your neighboors so they pay carbon taxes and believe Al Gore’s scam.
Thank you for this very informative video. Chemtrail particles are now beginning to be included in Science books and being taught in high schools. Some Science books are referring to it as ‘PARTICLE AIR”. See Centerpoint Learning Science 1 Essential Interactions Science Book Section 5:19 Solutions for Global Warming. Peace.
Here’s and interesting patent: Powder contrail generation United States Patent 3899144 abstract: Light scattering pigment powder particles, surface treated to minimize inparticle cohesive forces, are dispensed from a jet mill deagglomerator as separate single particles to produce a powder contrail having maximum visibility or radiation scattering ability for a given weight material.
Of coarse you realize that these are the same quacks who are intentionally poisoniong our children with vaccines and makeing males of every species sterile with plastics. And now we are letting them tinker with the only planet we have!
It actually reads that like they are already doing this and are wondering whether or not doing it on Global level will work…
don’t want to be the ‘bad guy’ here, but all this document is saying what they have ‘researched’ to be possible solutions to their made-up crisis. It’s certainly no proof of them admitting they are doing the chemtrails currently.
very well put together congrads. Geoff
Excellent work. Thank you!
great research! yep obama announced in jan or feb this year that they may ‘have-to’ fill the sky with aluminium particles to deflect the sun. theyve backed off here for four days now (touch-wood) after several weeks of constant disbursal. I am curious as to why they have been so busy over populated areas, a bit sus in light of the foreseen risk to public health.
-after several weeks of constant disbursal.- Disbursal? I someone handing out money? What exactly do you believe they are dispersing?
Anything they want, under the guise of global warming. Modern medicine is all about nano particles and aerosol dispersion.
Modern medicine is the only reason we are not being killed by Smallpox like the 500 million that died from it in the 20th century. Nutrition and modern medicine is why our lifespans have doubled. If “they” have a plan to kill us then better food and medicines are a very strange way to go about it.
GMO is not a better form of food.. Have you ever watched the commericals for medicine. HA I would rather have whatever it is then all the side effects. Also almost all of them say on rare occasion death may occure. The meds for depression, & ADD, MAKE you a zombie/ makes you want to kill your self or someone else. AND they have cures for many things that DON’T involve MMM BUT they would rather keep taking the money. BTW Check out Denver international airport Video, and the stonehenge one also.
Ya right! You would rather have the disease then suffer possible side affects of the medication. Tell yourself that the next time you need Penicillin or if you ever get cancer.
Very interesting avatar BocScar, can I ask where you got it from?
Google images. I think I typed the keyword “symbols”. I’ve always found the image geometrically interesting.
Penicillin is a natural antibiotic. Another things I also stated was that they have cures USING natural things to cure such diseases or illness.. They to have the CURE for cancer and diabates…I CAN’T SPELL sue me if anything is wrong.. LOL.. For things such as RLS, Sleeping or non sleeping issues or if my minds run in circles do to ADD. NO I WILL not take what they have made. They have moved AWAY from the things nature gives us & that is scary.
If Penicillin is a natural derivative or not is irrelevant to my comment. You said you would prefer to suffer the disease than possible side affects from the treatment. Good for you. I don’t care if you can’t spell or express yourself any more than I care if you refuse to take prescribed medication.
I will take medicine if it is Natural that is what I’m saying.. if you don’t care why did you come back an waste time typing. Anyways,,, CHEMtrails are real… Good luck with seeing that.. Peace to you
Bla bla bla… If you ever get cancer, you will take anything that will save your life, whether it’s “natural” or not.
All this time and you come back BLA BLA BLA you don’t know me.. If I ever develop cancer.. I WILL FIGHT each and every doctor and/or Organization for the REAL cure that they have hidden from Humanity… TRUST THAT… Cancer HAS A CURE…
Weed oil, laetrile (B17), MMS, lots of things.
Without inflamations, you CAN’T? get cancer. Thought you’d like to know.
If the earth is allowed to do its natural thing. Extra sun and heat/radiation will evaporate MORE water from the oceans, so creating more natural cloud cover, then natural rain. They don’t want that, they only want death to tell you the truth. They are not in harmony with the earth just their ego sociopathic conversations at the dinner table.
someones getting money to fly around in no particular route to disburse particulated dust that effect the weather. To ‘disburse’ means to ‘spread out” it isnt a term money specific. What they are disbursing is currently under investigation and double blind back testing is now being performed in several reputable universities to determine exactly whats in the air in the disbursal areas. I told u b4 Its not an issue of belief why do you debunkers always fall back on the same emotive arguments?
-double blind back testing is now being performed in several reputable universities – Links please. I’m going to go out on a limb here and guess that nowhere in any of these studies will they mention “chemtrails” or “secret government dimming operations”. These are probably typical environmental studies but you guys use them as evidence that someone is looking into your paranoid claims.
You know for a fact that they are spraying but you don’t know what they are spraying. OK. Let’s start with this: How do you know they are deliberately spraying chemicals?
What gets me when I point out/complain about this to others is that they tell me–there couldn’t possibly be a deliberate poisoning agenda, because they would be poisoning their own children/families. Don’t know what to say back.
great research! there are similar documents” not as specific” on the CFR website under the title”geo-engineering” where obamas team had recently updated the site to include planetary engineering techniques! but this blows that away! awesome work! is there a link to the original document! would love to see and spread to all!!!!
In the description…
You know what might shut down this operation? A pilots strike. Anytime you board an aircraft or are within air shot of an airliner pilot, you should educate them about chemtrails being aluminum and pathogens and neither being healthy for people. If enough pilots knew that they were killing their own sons and daughters with their flying spraying aluminum, maybe they’d strike. Airport protests also sounds like a good idea.
I just heard the second person from NC who is a patriot claim contrails ALWAYS looked the way chemtrails do. Shows how successfully the media (with the subliminals and chemtrail backgrounds) have conditioned people to believe it’s always been like this and is normal. The f*ckin media suceeded. Check out ironhorse’s vid on clipser. Arrgh
Patriot? More likely traitor and on the pay roll of the disinformational establishment. I stopped a random state senator on the street outside the statehouse and asked if he noticed the chemtrails pointing at the sky. He asked me why they’re spraying. I told him the global warming excuse AND that it’s aluminum and pathogens and more likely REALLY to murder people. He seemed genuinely interested and mildly aware, like he had noticed. People pretending they don’t see it are most likely traitors.
the real downside being that the generation “y” who are present in abundance online, havnt experienced alot of unmanipulated weather in their life. Born after 85′ and these young adults have nothing to rate the appearance of the sky against. Therefore theyre quite unconcerned with ‘them’ making clouds… easily fooled by the bogus ‘disinf’ websites that abound online. theyve been blinded. our hope is with the older generations who can remember.
This is the format of a decent video – loaded with information. Thankyou.
Yes, they do appear to spray more at night. Hands up who’s noticed the thick fog we often get overnight in the season they call ‘summer’?
dude, since february this year i’ve been seeing them. it’s warm where i live plus i camp a lot, so since february i’ve seen an incremental increase in chemtrailing.
Hey my dear and intelligent friends! I truly hope that none of you are fooled by their attempts to say they are trying to prevent climate change and its quickening pace! Mankind may be 1% at fault, but It’s not us alone AT ALL, causing the Globe to warm, its Solar Cycles, over 30000 scientists have proven this and know it, as millions of others do! The elite know they can’t reverse it, they? know many prophetic events will occur before Global Warming’s effects even reach a height! God Bless all!
Yes GODLOVESUSSOMUCH, you are right. ALL of the planets are warming – even the uninhabited ones – which proves without doubt that this is a ‘natural’ occurrance. Don’t people ever think back to their school days? THEY taught us that climate change has occurred in the past and that mankind survived it – even without paying carbon tax! LOL to the carbon tax! Thanks for continuing this truthful point, that any sane person can and will see, sadly many intelligent people hold on to what some corrupted or misinformed scientists, have stated as true science, when its not! Keep spreading the good truth bro, even that which is not sugar coated, just as God did not sugar coat the times we are in & nearing. There are troubles ahead, yet an eternally happy ending for those that seek the path of love & truth found in Christ! God Bless!
First Chemtrails is no solution for global warming. Global warming is about done anyhow. We’re running out of oil to pollute the skys with and the north pole already melted into the oceans which has a chilling effect that has been studied and shown to cause ICE AGE in an average 3 years. Ice Age is the new problem. 2nd, it’s not about whether people will survive, of course we will. But its a matter of what living conditions we’ll experience and it’s not looking good at all.
Very true I made a video about this 2 weeks ago. There are so many different reasons for why the spraying is happening and over night they could decide to spray something totally different. People are getting used to seeing white lines in the sky so if they decided to suddenly spray Agent US or Brucella people wouldn’t even know or question, they would say “That plane is low today” As the elite are safely underground.
Yooo MR 77info! That’s the truth of this sick matter right there, they don’t care and even though they are not at all ashamed of their evil agenda, they definitely do much more spraying at night, to secure that their plans will not be headed or stopped like history has shown their plans to be, and they will again…They don’t learn, at least that which is important! Also so true how they try to make these trails seem so casual, putting them in tv media advertisements, even games and movies! =)
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wow, the american media has hit a new low. no wonder there are so many stupid people who believe in chem trails, with the american population trusting everything the media throws in front of them it is no wonder that people believe in chem trails.
Chemtrails are well documented tainted airplane exhaust comtrails saturating and obliterating our skies with deadly toxins. Soda pop is an out dated term for carbonated sugar water. Why are there so many hateful naysayers trying to obscure discussion and critical research into these matters? Hmmm…
No, why are you SO STUPID as to believe that:
1. Contrails CAN’T be persistent.
2. Their contents can be collected by trays on the ground, and NOTHING else will get in the trays.
3. That the US can AFFORD to cover the Earth in Barium, Aluminum, Silver.
4. That it is POISONING you (yet NO-ONE has died).
5. That passenger planes CAN be fitted with poison sprays, yet no-one DIES, “FINGERS”, GETS INFECTED.
“Chemtrails” ARE SODA POP. Put them through a carbon filter for sure, and each mile of “chemtrail” will get you a crate of soda pop.
The stratosphere is stable and layered like an onion with layers of differing humidities. A “saturated” layer will NOT reabsorb the trail, which will slowly fall and form stratus or cirrus cloud. That is what you see…
Want some soda pop? I’m nuts for soda pop! Are you?
Yo Jazzroc–when they do go live with the mass extermination and you’re dying from Ebola, enjoy that soda (you probably like the stuff that has Aspartame in it). Meanwhile, a global network of responsible citizens is forming to confront this menace.
“Responsible citizens” are people who THINK before they ACT. In your case, you’ve a job ahead of you – to LEARN to THINK. I’d rather that people like you were supporting the NWO – you’d mess them right up!
1) We need an comprehensive global ban on these practices.
2) There needs to be an international inspection regime over all aircraft worldwide with criminal penalties for the existence of aerosol dispersal devices.
3) National security exclusions to FOIA requests need to be abrogated and immediate worldwide disclosure of these practices documented.
Document redaction should be criminalized.
Jolly good. Best use the UN for this. Haha. But apparently (so the scuttlebutt goes!) the UN is PART of the conspiracy to, er, depopulate…
Best draw up a World Citizens’ Army then. Then fly about from airport to airport enforcing…
Those that don’t can get their videocams out and film you “spraying” as you go, and SHOOT you when you land…
‘You’re quoting a research report.’
Correct. From 1992. Spraying operations began by most people’s accounts, in late 1998.
Keep in mind, this report was authorized by Congress and sponsored by the National Academy of Sciences. This report concludes that this technique of aerial spraying is the most cost effective and efficient method (of the varius options mentioned) for increasing planetary albedo in response to a “global warming” scenario.
Senior researchers, faculty, theoreticians, atmospheric scientists, department heads and CEO’s from a multitude of prestigious institutions took part in this report.
The Smithsonian, Harvard, General Motors, Cambridge, MIT, Yale, World Resources Institute, National Center for Atmospheric Research, the Secretary General of the United Nations, Oxford, Brookings Institution, Columbia University, Oak Ridge National Laboratory, Carnegie-Mellon University, Princeton University, Brown University, Lawrence Livermore Laboratory, and there’s more, if you look.
‘It’s the title, isn’t it? Filming a harmless event with the false implication of harm can cause needless distress and foment discord, even if you believe you’re saving the world…’
I’d like you to start a journey of discovery, that is, if you are willing. Since we agree that even if it’s water up there, and nothing harmful at all… you will now begin to see the darker side of the science of geoengineering.
Google this US patent: US5003186
Notice the patent holder? Hughes Aircraft (now Raytheon) is one of the US’s largest defense contractors in the area of Aerospace.
Read what’s in the mix, my friend…
‘2. The method of claim wherein said material comprises one or more of the oxides of metals.’
You read up on Welsbach materials. That’s your homework assignment.
A method is disclosed for reducing atmospheric warming due to the greenhouse effect resulting from a greenhouse gases layer. The method comprises the step of seeding the greenhouse gas layer with a quantity of tiny particles of materials characterized by wavelength-dependent emissivity or reflectivity, in that said materials have high emissivities in the visible and far infrared wavelength regions and low emissivity in the near infrared wavelength region. Such materials can include the class of materials known as Welsbach materials. The oxides of metal, e.g., aluminum oxide, are also suitable for the purpose. The greenhouse gases layer typically extends between about seven and thirteen kilometers above the earth’s surface. The seeding of the stratosphere occurs within this layer. The particles suspended in the stratosphere as a result of the seeding provide a mechanism for converting the blackbody radiation emitted by the earth at near infrared wavelengths into radiation in the visible and far infrared wavelength so that this heat energy may be reradiated out into space, thereby reducing the global warming due to the greenhouse effect.
Very interesting. I have a few questions:
Do commercial turbofan engine injectors safely pass these refractory solids between 10 and 100 microns?
How do filamentary materials figure in all this?
Or biological materials?
You realise that a single “coating” (1 particle/sq.cm) for the US weighs 170,000 tonnes? and you’d have to renew it?
Well, 170,000 tonnes is within any major paint manfr’s brief I suppose. But DELIVERY would be HARD.
And treating the globe would be outside our capabilities.
The Aluminum-Barium argument is rendered obsolete by the YouTube clip below
Why squander fuel, occlude your skies, and poison your population, when this CHEAPER AND MORE PRACTICAL operation can be carried out in the South Atlantic and Pacific?
The clip is one of FIVE WAYS TO COOL THE EARTH – a googlevid.
The price of space mirrors and artificial trees is FAR too high, rocketed sulfur FAR too risky, only this idea and ocean phytoplankton feeding make sound practical and economic sense, can be begun TODAY, and carried out in WEEKS.
Co-opting living creatures is a million times MORE EFFECTIVE than employing technology.
I DON’T believe what any government says, ever. If it said “It’s a fine day”, I’d run out and check BOTH front AND back. And THEN I’d REMAIN NERVOUS
What SO pisses me off is that FAR TOO FEW PEOPLE think PROPERLY
Do you realise HOW WEAK a people is when it doesn’t have sufficient scientific understanding? When it CANNOT follow a LOGICAL train of thought?
When it lacks the basic life-skills to SURVIVE technological collapse?
CT supporters are HARDENED in their weakness. They FEAR science, which is in truth their ONLY salvation. They don’t know how to farm, make clothes, make things, make provisions – they barely know how to cook. If the NWO WERE to “depopulate” them, they’d murder each other at the doors of empty supermarkets
There are MANY ironies. Earlier govt attempts to protect people from germ warfare are NOW construed as “practice” attempts at depopulation.
SMALL experiments of geo-engineering are NOW considered PROOF of of govt attempts to reduce immunity. The list goes on and on….
If there is to be a conflagration (and 2012 seems about right to me!) then I REALLY DON’T WANT TO BE INVOLVED. I DO NOT WANT TO BE KILLED IN SOME GADARENE STAMPEDE!
Maybe human “civilisations” CANNOT LAST. It is ANOTHER IRONY, it seems to me, that once we lived in continual fear of NUCLEAR SPASM (THE BANG!) and now it seems it’s going to be SOCIO-ECONOMIC COLLAPSE (THE WHIMPER!) brought about, in part, by the CHEMTRAIL PARANOIA. The rest, and greater part, of course, seems to be the moral collapse of the US govt.
EVERY PILLAR of the “chemtrail” hypothesis proves on examination to be UTTERLY FALSE. It is based on BAD SCIENCE and LOOSE ASSOCIATION. It is a complete and utter CHIMAERA – a tragic waste of time – only distinguishable from WARFARE by its LACK OF DEATHS.
But it has PLENTY OF VICTIMS, and PLENTY MORE TO COME…
“911-martial-fourth planned coup-1934-1963-1972-Executive O 11647-11731-1973-Failed-passed -Trilateral Com-1974-Obama-three weeks”
Great stuff. Means bugger-all when “chemtrails” turn out to be plain old contrails and you turn out to be bottom of your class in atmospheric physics. How long have you spent in this totally useless activity? Just think how much of your life you would save if you went to school. Just think of the good things you could have been doing instead.
Sure it just so happens. Why should I believe you when all you do is spread hatred. Only you will be on here 24/7 next week and thereafter unless you change your account name again. The vulgar way you speak to others in these chat rooms I hope I never have to see you in the hospital or call your hotline
I spend a total of 2 hours a day ridiculing those who continue sick fear mongering practices. It’s just so happened that I have a week off from work. How about you? I am employed, I work 2 jobs to support my family.
1. I am an Emergency 911 operator and
2. Bio/chemical technician.
Those with the alleged IQ are being very stupid about this time unless they wake up before the next 911, martial law, a fourth planned military coup. Three planned military coups were attempted in our history as evidenced by congressional investigation in 1934, one in 1960 -1963 and that scum named Nixon planned one from 1969 to 1972, as evidenced by Executive Order 11647 and 11731 in 1972 to 1973. Failed but passed on to the Trilateral Commission in 1974. Obama completed this plan three weeks ago.
Science is made up by the money and control by the Masons, CFR, and Rockefeller foundation money. Try again with your fantasies. History is proven to be fabricated, science goes out to the Agenda set by the emerging world order. 300 microbiologists were murdered around the year 2000 to 2002….the names are available. You best wake up before our next civil war and martial law does.
@frick….I spend no hours, I know they are real. Factual Documented Scientific information….lol….:)) Oh, like the age of the universe, or the we now came from fish or better yet, Global warming? Please, I’ll read Wizard of Oz another Illuminati production for fun. 🙂
How many hours in a day do you spend ridiculing others and spreading your lies? 24/7. You’re on all the pages doing the same thing. Gosh you sure do spend a lot of time 24/7 on pages that you know are just hoopla. You must be part of the 22% of unemployed Americans. You’ve got too much time on your hands or your getting paid by Cass Sunstein and his COINTELPRO agency.
Expanding chemtrails can be seen daily now in my town. This is not even physically possible but it happens daily. Look up!
lol great comment moneymail002. ‘your overlords’ – My overlords are your overlords according to your belief system. If such overlords exist they’re in power and you are just a simple taxpayer just like the rest of us. lol So why would you think you’ve gained freedom from them? How many hours in a day do you spend convincing yourself that chemtrails are real? I wish you spent and equal number of hours reading factual documented scientific information and used some constructive critical thinking as well. Perhaps you would discover that the world isn’t such a scary place after all.
Why do people sit there and say their government IS doing this or that? All of your “proof” is based on unproven assumptions and has no validity whatsoever; it originates in this RELIGION that says the government and scientists are some sort of entirely separate social tier concerned mainly with the destruction of the rest of society. Yet for some reason you seem shocked when people with an IQ and an understanding of science above those of the average monkey refuse to believe your crap.
cointelpro? Goodness, did it ever cross your mind that perhaps these people who are commenting in regards to the propaganda TrutherD1 is spreading, are simply stating hard scientific facts to disperse the multitude of crap built up around stupid conspiracy theories?
The conspiracy is true. The crap is made up of those lying about a conspiracy theory…there is no theory. It is fact. Most all of the events today and in the past are part of this unified conspiracy. The evidence is irrefutable. If you want I can send you the references, thumbnail list, of 8 pages and a chronology that is supported by scholarily research that covers over 140 pages+ a summary. bring it on.
I know your “list”. It is pseudoscience. Your “evidence” isn’t refutable because it isn’t evidence. 8 pages of pseudoscience only has value as COMPOST. ALL your miserable “work” has been through contrailscience. com and jazzroc. wordpress, com and been torn to shreds. Such shreds are plant food. Are you a plant? Do you photosynthesize? You certainly don’t THINK.
lol….you types are all alike. You actually think that your useless diatribe is effective. There isn’t a history or economic professor that could refute the truth. They can lie, and then go to the CFR bank as they are prostitutes for the eiltes like Ayn Rand was. You just might have a point. Its easier for you people to lie and deny since you apparently have no soul. The truth however won’t be denied in due time. There is nothing you can do about that.
Oh, your overlords are getting ready to pull something. They just don’t know that they are signing their own death warrant.
Yeah. It’s been tough here in Tenerife. My God, man, it RAINED here last night! I had to pick my way round the puddles as I walked down the town with my dear little dog to buy some bread and ham for my breakfast. Then when I returned to my desk I discovered I was in “communication” (apparently) with a blind and stupid egocentric arsehole blowing out compost, and believing it to be “truth”. SCIENCE refutes your miserable and pathetic lies with ease. “History” “Economics”? LOL
Well said beachcomber2008.
YOU HAVE TO SEE THIS: ULTIMATE PROOF OF CHEMTRAIL SPRAYING! watch?v=MRUqogeAgHo watch?v=VLA0yejkeYM watch?v=qSDkdOpjiSc&feature=re lated
NASA = Admit Zero! We are not idiots, we are a collective, we are oneness, we are 11:11 we are awakened giants.
Thank you so much for the compliments! I appreciate your acknowledgement of my informative channel. By all means, you are welcome to view my channel at any time. Bye bye for now JAZZ(BANNED)ROC.
ffs… Nut cases from A to Z…
Why do people sit there and say their government isn’t doing this or that, instead of actively questioning said government? Why defend something you have no idea about..
Why propose something of which you are completely ignorant? You do. The reflection of this ignorance is the ignorance you so foolishly project upon others. It is confirmed by the lies you have already accepted. And the consequences of which, which you haven’t, because you certainly lack the means to foresee them. The bill for this life course direction will be paid in full by you – one day.
@truther..those that are going after you are more than likely cointelpro. Alex Jones gets his stuff from them and in fact works for the elites as does Ron Paul (Mason) and Naomi Wolf. They are the ones pretending to be on our side but work different roles for the globalist.
@tgambill, Thanks for the heads-up – I know you’re right. For the last few months the same guys have been responding with aggression and ridicule even of legitimate and recognized science. It quickly became obvious their whole mission here is to parrot the govt. story and ridicule and distract good people seeking honest answers.
Now, link the chemicals with mind control, ELF and GWEN Towers, and HAARP. This should really get your interest peaked when “DISCLOSURE” and “Day of Declaration” comes in July, with the Benjamin Creme and this weirdo named Maitreya. They work together. The chemtrails have Barium Oxide, Aluminum Oxide (rainbow colors) and Barium Chloride on occasion. The purpose is to destroy the immune system and in fact the chemicals have killed off the bee population. The bees account for 80% of the natural food supply. This will aid in the food genocide later to support Kissinger’ NSSM 200 Depopulation Plan to reduce the worlds population. In heavy spraying causes seizures, Pre-mature births, lung problems, etc…it is a conspiracy, fact.
show yourself shill’
@beachcomber2008, Yeah they send weather balloons once, twice a day, sometimes hourly. If conditions say no contrails ’til 10km and you see a low-level trail it would make sense to become suspicious.
All the fraudulent Rosalind’s questions have normal scientific answers. Patrick Minnis is the foremost expert on satellite atmospheric studies. Particulates made of ICE CANNOT BE POLLUTION. Viruses, fungi and bacteria, are brought down by the water in the atmosphere. William Thomas doesn’t seem to notice that complaints come from cities, which ARE places you DO get viruses, fungi and bacteria. A bollocks programme, and a bollocks post…
@beachcomber2008, Do you work for the government? What’s the harm in investigating?
investigating something for which there is already an accurate and cogent explanation is a waste of time which would have been better spent investigating something worthwhile. You and the fraudulent bitch above are worse than useless – YOU are just about as harmful as you can get without actually “chemtrailing” yourself. Do I make myself clear, DUMMY?
heavy chemtrails again today! DAILY when i can see the blue skies!
Research ”ENMOD” treaty at the U.N. site, State department website and read ”Between Two Ages”. The water supply is ”poisoned” and so now is the food supply genetically modified. This was done decades before without approval by ”representatives”.
Discovery basically avoids the real issue. Just search for “chemtrails” and check any other result than this one. LOL
Powerful stuff!, great video mate!. Check out peyote the band on my space. The track “Don’t Waste Any Time” mentions this stuff. Nice to hear this message making it into the mainstream!
@brad213 – they are creating ‘ climate change’ to unite the world into a one world government, and to acheive the ‘mother earth ‘cults agenda.
I always leave room for doubt… but I will you are right on because I have some of the evidence.
We all breathe the same air. What would anyone benefit from poisoning the oxygen within our atmosphere. Wouldnt it be easier to poison our water supplies?
scaremenga, you really are brillant aren’t u? have you checked out the unemployment rate lately? god, there’s SO MUCH work out there isn’t there! LMAO! p.s. the perfect slave believes he’s free, u are a perfect slave! chemtrails daily when i can see the blue skies!
YOU HAVE TO SEE THIS: ULTIMATE PROOF OF CHEMTRAIL SPRAYING! watch?v=MRUqogeAgHo watch?v=VLA0yejkeYM
chemtrails are there to prohibit ufos from entering our atmosphere. research the magnetic and energetic properties of chemtrails and probable
ufo propulsion systems
can you tell me more about this?
Here’s an interview with a guy who used to be on the inside of the chemtrails project, aka clover leaf? Give it a listen, make up your own mind. it won’t let me post this thing for some reason, so I’ll try it without the URL, instead just put the following into the youtube search browser. Ex government employee talks about chemtrails
i really dont know what to say. you need to slow down and think about what your saying!
Chemtrail spraying is boldly being done right over unprotected civilian populations, such as what is happening in the following video: v=uRoNDxAWQo4
Again with the go back to sleep? Isn’t the job of “Truthers” to wake those who are asleep up? LOL. Yeah, I should be asking that question. Why would they want to kill us slowly? So they can have more work to do? it would be easier to enslave us all, especially if they are as advanced as you people say they are. How do you know how much they plan to eliminate? Did they publish a “NWO Manifesto” somewhere?
WOW is right! CONtrails daily when i can see the blue skies! scaremenga and mrfatandslow PLEASE go back to sleep or just get a good copy of the 911 commission report, should keep you sheeple busy for YEARS!
WOW to all u idiots who really beleive that our government is trying to take care of you=== UR A BUNCH OF IDIOTS! It’s because of ignorant people like you that these things are going on. Use COMMON SENSE! Look in the sky. When would normal planes blow out THICK FLUFFY clouds of smoke that hang in the air for hours up to a full day? THEY DONT! &if you’ve ever seen these planes – they will blow out the chemicals and stop. If this was normal engine ejections they would continue the whole flight!
whats it like to live a life of such deep paranoid thoughts that you believe the goverment wants to kill you? enjoy your fantasy world!
“Why would the “NWO” want to destroy the population.” Are you sure you should really be asking that question? That is in fact one of their “goals” if you will. They plan to eliminate about 90% of the worlds population.
scaremenga a lot of it has to do with weather manipulation and radar obscuration. Unfortunately, what they’re using to do this is not healthy for us to be breathing.
no your a stuped fucking bastard when a jet engine burns its fuel you get vapor that comes out the back which is harmless water freezing
problem with opinions is some of them have no base or real concrete evidence, and a lot of opinions are formed by subjective, emotional thinking instead of logical thought. So most of these things you call opinions are instead theories or speculations. I just saw yesterday for the first time in my life about 30 “trails” in the sky in my area. I have a couple ideas of what they are, but I have not encountered enough evidence either way to sway me into a conspiracy opinionist.
scaremenga please go back to sleep, awesome vid KarakulBrigand! watch STESSO AEREO, SCIE DIVERSE! 4 trails only 2 persist! awesome catch! i see someone doesn’t like this one, they spammed u! lol! ANOTHER day with chemtrails here in s.e.wisconsin today, daily when i can see the blue skies! just gotta observe daily and not believe WORDS that are fed to you! ps. polarized sunglasses are a priceless tool!
LOL. I thought the mission of people like you were to wake up these “sheeple” and here you are telling me to go back to sleep, into my world of “fantasies”. I’d rather die in me sleep, metaphorically speaking, than die wide awake. That’s just me. ROFL. Don’t call me an ignorant loser either. I used to believe in chemtrails too, but evidence I found on a variety of unbiased websites, like the one with the largest datebase of aircraft photos, has obviously reversed my views. couldn’t help this, but aren’t you guys feeding me words right now? In the form of videos and flame comments? You’re no better than the people you’re “fighting against”!
Watch this vid: STESSO AEREO, SCIE DIVERSE! same plane, different trails! Four trails two persist two do not.
set up because they know once they scare everybodi into getin the swine flu shot there are gonna be plenty of deaths oh and guess what isnt that what they want to depopulate the planet so there will be less people to control in the new world order do research because im not making any of this up to scare anyone its all fact there are tons of videos on youtube that that prove me right thanks for the complement also an f ur taught to keep an open mind then open ur mind to some research
I did do some research. I was also taught that just because someone has an opposing viewpoint, doesn’t mean they are wrong. Everyone’s entitled to their opinions, just as you are. Were you taught that in school? There’s tons of videos that prove me right too. Why would the “NWO” want to destroy the population. Who wants to rule a crippled population? Even if they dominate the world, then they’ll have billions of sick *frankly* losers under their whips. How fun.
yes I have no clue wat a grid system or sumthin is maby I should look it up but if our govornment loves us so much why do they have fema camps set up all over the usa why do they have concrete cofins ur an idiot and yes they do because they dont want us riseing against the new world order there tryna creat okay in high school they teach you to obey obey obey and college is just more enslavement for the people why do people go to college get out an work at walmart if thats the case then you dont need to go to college u brainwashed dummy they also tryna kill us with there swine flu shoots why do we need mercury and swaline in out bodies cuz they tryna kill us and these are some of the ingr
I’m not brainwashed to obey; the exact opposite in fact. All of my teachers, especially my AP Euro teacher, encourages us to maintain an open mind. He links Europe’s sour past with ignorance and obedience. And if there’s anybody against total obedience, it would be me. Did I ever judge you personally? No. So there’s no purpose to call me an idiot. If swine flu shots are so bad, don’t get them. You’re not forced to. Instead of accusing, maybe you should research the grid system. contrails
I am sorry I pissed you off. What does the space preservation act actually say about chemtrails? Contrails can be persistent, if the humidity of the surrounding air is high. It’s not rocket science. If the air is dry, the contrails will sublimate quickly, turning the ice crystals into water vapour. If the air is humid, the surrounding air can’t hold more water than it already does, and the contrail is persistent.
Umm I dont have to sit in front of a computer to view chemtrails I can walk out side ansee them all over the sky like some one is spraying chemicals in an orderly fashion so to your answer ur question you are the dumb one
I’m the dumb one for saying that the government doesn’t want dumb people? Which they don’t? Why are contrails showing up in an orderly fashions? Why don’t you Google the flight grid for your local area, you’ll notice that it’s comprised of lines following “orderly fashion[s]”, it keeps air traffic in a structured matter. Better yet, why don’t you get the tail numbers of these sprayers? And then track them online? Maybe you’ll be able to see they aren’t government-sprayers, and just innocent pax.
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November 12, 2008 at 1:00 am
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